Whats wrong with the housing demo timer??

[Kuroka]

Yes but two days in row there were 0. Its just weird as i cant imagine ppl relocating to ulda as... well its where ppl go so they can relocate in the first place xD

Half of em were in the older wards, but i wonder, are the latest still free for FCs to take?

[Stormfur]

Hey, if you like neighborhoods, that's cool. I like the idea of it... but only if there were other wards created when one fills up.

I know they've said that it really strains the servers to do it that way. Did housing exist during the first FFXIV? If it did then I could see that being a problem (maybe Ishgard will remedy that, although I'm not holding my breath) since they're using old code.

[ElazulHP]

Neighborhood housing should be changed to be FC only housing and instanced housing should be introduced for individuals. Grandfather in anyone who already owns a plot to avoid butt hurt, but also introduce a property tax mechanic and reduce the timer for demolition to like two weeks for individuals. It's not perfect, but it's probably the best way to move forward without completely demolishing the old housing system.

[Mesarthim]

Neighborhood housing should be changed to be FC only housing and instanced housing should be introduced for individuals. Grandfather in anyone who already owns a plot to avoid butt hurt, but also introduce a property tax mechanic and reduce the timer for demolition to like two weeks for individuals. It's not perfect, but it's probably the best way to move forward without completely demolishing the old housing system.

Or we could not suggest a system to punish homeowners for merely owning a house because of SE's poor decisions.

It needs to change but I don't see much positives out of this.

[ElazulHP]

Or we could not suggest a system to punish homeowners for merely owning a house because of SE's poor decisions.

It needs to change but I don't see much positives out of this.

It's not a punishment and availability is the positive. FC's that require a house to be fully functional would be able to get one. Individuals would get an instanced house instantly upon meeting whatever the requirements are to acquire one.

[LaylaTsarra]

Neighborhood housing should be changed to be FC only housing and instanced housing should be introduced for individuals. Grandfather in anyone who already owns a plot to avoid butt hurt, but also introduce a property tax mechanic and reduce the timer for demolition to like two weeks for individuals. It's not perfect, but it's probably the best way to move forward without completely demolishing the old housing system.

They are not going to remove personal housing from those who own it. We don't need a property tax or a reduction of the housing timer either. If anything the timer needs to go away and housing should be based on a paying sub period. We also need people to stop trying to devise ways about taking housing away from people who own them.

[ElazulHP]

They are not going to remove personal housing from those who own it. We don't need a property tax or a reduction of the housing timer either. If anything the timer needs to go away and housing should be based on a paying sub period. We also need people to stop trying to devise ways about taking housing away from people who own them.

That is why I suggested grandfathering people who already have a plot to avoid the butt hurt. However, reducing timers to two weeks and adding a tax isn't unreasonable. If you can't visit the house at least once in that time then you probably don't need it as much as say an FC.

EDIT: Besides adding instanced housing would be the new personal housing. So everyone would have a house.

[LaylaTsarra]

That is why I suggested grandfathering people who already have a plot to avoid the butt hurt. However, reducing timers to two weeks and adding a tax isn't unreasonable. If you can't visit the house at least once in that time then you probably don't need it as much as say an FC.

Dream on it's not happening.

[Edax]

That is why I suggested grandfathering people who already have a plot to avoid the butt hurt. However, reducing timers to two weeks and adding a tax isn't unreasonable. If you can't visit the house at least once in that time then you probably don't need it as much as say an FC.

Unreasonable? Most often I'm out of the country in 2 week intervals. I'm sorry about I'm not using my house in that time, but playing FFXIV when I'm in another country from a hotel just isn't feasible. And then there was that time I was the sickest I'd been in years a few months ago the prevented me from playing the game for over 2 weeks. I'm sorry that I'm sick and not using my home, but life happens that I can't control. FC homes don't perform any vital functions so FC don't need homes anymore then anyone else. And especially now, in this world crisis, 2 week demolition times would be absurdly cruel. It's not like the housing demolition process is clean, I would be looking at weeks of decorating lost, 40+mil in furniture now wasted, 12 mil lost from losing the home and the sudden need to store around 700 furniture items before it gets tossed in the virtual dumpster.

With a 2 week timer, I'd have to give my password out to someone else just for me to travel abroad, which is against the rules. But that would effectively be my only option to try and save my house.

[Avidria]

That is why I suggested grandfathering people who already have a plot to avoid the butt hurt. However, reducing timers to two weeks and adding a tax isn't unreasonable. If you can't visit the house at least once in that time then you probably don't need it as much as say an FC.

EDIT: Besides adding instanced housing would be the new personal housing. So everyone would have a house.

Nobody needs a house and frankly I think it's silly that they're required for access to any feature period. There should be other ways to crossbreed and other ways to access an FC workshop given that the system as it stands is so limited.

And yeah, a two week timer is pretty unreasonable as already said, business trips and vacations can easily end up in the realm of two weeks, and chaining people to the game even more than they already do to keep a house is just crappy. I'd prefer if there was enough housing to not have a timer at all, ESPECIALLY when they don't even save your furniture when your house is demolished. If you can't get on in time to save what you can, it all goes poof, including stuff that cost actual real life cash (which I also think is ridiculous in itself).

I doubt they'd fully overhaul the whole system, but if they do, instanced housing would need to have all the same features as current housing to even be all that appealing. Size, furnishing, gardening and exterior decorating, and sharing the house with friends are a big part of what I like about housing. I'd happily move to one if it meant I didn't need to worry about a demo timer, but only if it was actually, you know, a house. As opposed to the apartments we have now that are frankly vastly inferior.