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  1. #21
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    Gemina's Avatar
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Floortank View Post
    288 MSQs from 2.0 to the end of 2.5 is waaaay too many. They need to cut it drastically back and I don't think the 13% they cited (which will cut it back to 250) will be enough, but we'll see if they cut enough steps for it to be fine.
    Mr. Happy is posting a set of videos where he is playing the 2.0-2.55 series of quests now, and will do so again after it gets trimmed. He's using a set of arbitrary rules in order to pace himself at what he feels like is a normal rate of progression. He understands that new players don't have access to the same things he does, so he takes certain advantages away. Not a bad a choice for content. I have to admit that I don't care for his content all that much, but I do have to commend the guy for essentially putting himself through ARR trice over, which when you add his initial trip, second trip, and the third trimmed trip together, it is an insane amount of quests.

    I definitely recommend it for players such as myself who are curious about the changes, and just don't really have the time to play, or are just too committed to their character to go through the MSQ again. If I were to actually play through it again after the updates, I wouldn't even notice the difference with the exception to being able to fly.

    It starts here for anyone who is interested:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKAlZssfjr8
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  2. #22
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    Enla's Avatar
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    Crushing Fatigue
    World
    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Floortank View Post
    288 MSQs from 2.0 to the end of 2.5 is waaaay too many. They need to cut it drastically back and I don't think the 13% they cited (which will cut it back to 250) will be enough, but we'll see if they cut enough steps for it to be fine.
    I have to imagine the bulk of the quests cut will be from 2.1-2.55, as that's where the bulk of the filler happens to be aside from condensing the Titan quest which is also the other most egregious time waster up until that point. 38 quests out of the 100+ slog that is 2.1-2.55 isn't too bad in all truth. Though I would prefer it'd be more than that since, again, Titan exists and that was hell and legitimately only created to make our characters have a reason to visit certain areas like Southern Thanalan.
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  3. #23
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    Jandroid's Avatar
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    Barbatos Tekketsu
    World
    Jenova
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Venur View Post
    Hi' I've finally managed to get my brother to try FF online but now he is getting discouraged.

    Playing a white mage (or any FF healer) solo is not really the funniest experience you can have in an MMO. Using 1 DoT and spamming 1 single DD to kill mobs slowly is a bit of a chore.

    Back in the days the pace of the main quest was healthy. You would do a few quest then you could run some dungeons in groups and got back to soloing the main quest.

    But now, simply doing the main quest you just out level it so fast that it get trivia and meaning less. He is now lvl 30 but only up to the lvl 20 main quest.

    In this game you need to do the main quest in order unlock stuff so taking a break from it when your already 10 level ahead feel like your punishing yourself.

    Also you can't mentor down while in the open world so basically we can only play together when his quest tell me to do group content.

    The main quest can be fun if you don't have to grind trough it I'd say. especially if you play a healer.
    I honestly wish I was 10 levels ahead when I did ARR MSQ (I started FFXIV around the time Shadowbringers came out). I just wanted to progress through it smoothly but I was usually barred from doing the next quest when all I wanted was to get to Heavensward as soon as I can since I heard great things about it. All of my friends at the time were enjoying Shadowbringers while I was stuck doing the painful ARR grind. Being ahead in levels and tunneling through MSQ in ARR is honestly a lot better than progress being constantly halted and being forced to do a bunch of tedious things on the side before picking up where I last left off.
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  4. #24
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    yukiiyuki's Avatar
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    Flame Foxter
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    Zodiark
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    Rogue Lv 80
    It's a franchise known for its story. Players will be unhappy if the story becomes scarce and most of their time is spent with random grinding. I don't seem them changing a formula that has worked for them.
    You can have a great story but dont lock everything behind 300 hours of it.
    Hope someday YoshiP fulfill his dream and create MMO without borders of creativity that FF franchise gives us. Something more like ARR, with deeper thoughts about RPG mechanics, nice difficulty curve, raids that looks like actual raids and living world, not deadless zones that we have now.
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  5. #25
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    Sisohiv's Avatar
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    Skittle Thief
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    Siren
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    Conjurer Lv 78
    It's hard to imagine anyone saying too much experience is a bad thing, isn't just being contrary. There are 6 preferred worlds on the NA data center right now and 22 hrs of the day you can't make new characters on any of them. Leveling was never the issue and preferred worlds just exposes that more. You can be level 60 on 3 classes with Preferred boost and still be MSQ locked out of any of the expansions. I'm guessing that is what they want to solve.
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  6. #26
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    Kris Goldenshield
    World
    Tonberry
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 100
    I typically level 2 jobs at the same time when running MSQ. Just back and forth keeping them about the same level as I go. I usually wrap up an expansion with 1 job at cap and 1 about a level or two under. The XP I get is just doing MSQ and daily roulettes. I've found this pace to be pretty relaxing and better equips me for doing other things with my FC when I reach cap (as in I have 2 different jobs I can run; DPS and Tank)
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  7. #27
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    There really should be an option to lock your level like a 'don't give me experience' mode or something.
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  8. #28
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Have him pick up a second or third class.

    Everytime a new expansion comes out I run with 2 jobs simply because the xp gains are so great.
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  9. #29
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    Frizze Steeleblaze
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    Lamia
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by RVallant View Post
    However, by the time I get to Heavensward, I'm going to faceroll content that I'm not synced down to aren't I? I'm already facerolling content like the Beast Tribes or whatever.
    The further you get in the story, the less battle content happens outside of instances. Im trying to think of the last important thing i did in the open world, and im drawing a blank. So since youre almost always synced(and rarely more then 1 level above the quest), this doesnt matter as much as you might think.
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  10. #30
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    PyurBlue's Avatar
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    Saphir Amariyo
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    Brynhildr
    Main Class
    Thaumaturge Lv 40
    It shouldn't really be a big deal. Use gear that matches your MSQ level and you'll hardly notice a difference. I like being able to outlevel the MSQ myself. Gear,especially at low levels needs to be replaced too frequently, and classes below 60 are a bit sparse with respect to skills.
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