the problem with PVP

[austincio]

We need a PVP class balance system like War Of Warcraft classes! please Square Enix improved the PVP like how you improved PVE, like the reward for pvp, the combat system(I mean the PVP combos system) I know some player like that some player hate it But let us have a option to choose can we use it or not (just like some people like to use controller and some like to use keybord and mouse). I know PVP community in Final Fantasy is not big but we are here!

PVE they are so good, you can do daily Roulette or leveling even Crafting mebey even fashion to find your best outfitting in game but in the end you get everything. You just finish every quest, boos, leveling even get amount of gil. and some player will feel boring they just log in and AFK do nothing ok may be RP.

But you also got PVP as well MAN! You use your favorite class to join the battle and Fight. sometime win sometime lose (I Lose all the time) but I still having fun and meet some new friends as well ! but now the PVP problem is players don't have motivation to play PVP unless you really love it. and the PVP reward it's basically nothing, you can get Tomestones form PVP why don't I play Duty Roulette to get them fast and easy unlike PVP long queue up time and maybe even lose and if you new to PVP and know nothing about it. you don't how do you lose. unless you find someone to teach you about. and also the skill are different from PVE ! I know it will more easier to balance the class but for new player like you need times to get used to it the differences the differences it's not really that much! but in mentally it's annoying and most importantly you keep changing in every season ! how could that possible to keep PVP more active? people use months or year to get used the difference between PVP and PVE ? but in PvP you make that different in every single season? people with just stopped care about it because they know every year will be different so what is the point to keep playing since they keep changing. it's just like 1+1=2 but in other place you need to say 01+01=02 basically it's not really that different but in mentally is annoying (or maybe make pvp gear set to able to use PVP skill in PVE as reward) or maybe just copy World of Warcraft classic PVP rewards system because FF14 PVP rewards compared to PVE it's basically nothing. the Square Enix PVP right now it just lik the Congressman say I will improve something something something but in the end it just did 1/4 promises.

[BloodRubyXII]

If I wanted to play PvP that was mechanically identical to WoW's again, I would simply return to WoW.

90% of the rest of this post makes no sense.

[austincio]

If I wanted to play PvP that was mechanically identical to WoW's again, I would simply return to WoW.

90% of the rest of this post makes no sense.

Yeah I will do same thing if not because the Blizzard the politics thing T ^ T

[BloodRubyXII]

Yeah I will do same thing if not because the Blizzard the politics thing T ^ T

ye well if being wiped out by an azerite trait passive is your idea of fun and class balance then power to you.

[austincio]

ye well if being wiped out by an azerite trait passive is your idea of fun and class balance then power to you.

But I think the game still get so much potential with PVP because based on their PVE content PVP content should not be left out (to the class balance. It's great for team game play) but I don't think it's work on small pvp game play like 1 vs 1 with Healer they just never dead. If they don't fix the the class balance the queue up time in game would just never change. If not people need to give up their favorite class on that season of PVP because it get Nerf.

[BloodRubyXII]

But I think the game still get so much potential with PVP because based on their PVE content PVP content should not be left out (to the class balance. It's great for team game play) but I don't think it's work on small pvp game play like 1 vs 1 with Healer they just never dead. If they don't fix the the class balance the queue up time in game would just never change. If not people need to give up their favorite class on that season of PVP because it get Nerf.

Class balance is literally the least of our worries at the moment. Especially when all things considered there's reasonable balance across the roles at the moment. We had a tournament over the weekend and there was plenty of variety. I mean it's quite clear already based on this post you're quite new and should maybe spend more time understanding PvP balance in this game before asking for changes to it. Does it need changes? Absolutely, there is still a lot of work to be done, but most of the more pressing issues you haven't even begun to address.

[snipski]

They just abused the OP comp right now Scholar + Drk 40% healing down stacked on a target you dont need to sleep the enemy healer or stun the kill target if your on tank, making you able to use stun as a pure defensive tool wich their tank did.

Healing down is way to strong right now i can totally see them fixing it for the next patch.
I think end of Stormblood with the FRC 2018 was the most balanced this PVP has ever been , but even then it was far from perfect.

[Sauteed]

I have played maybe 3 matches of pvp since the ShB changes to it, and have kind of just given up. I don't like, don't like the Azim Steppe pvp area thing, just yuck all around. I'm not demanding any changes, I just have completely lost interest in FFXIV pvp. I have enough fun in other parts of the game. I am also of the mind that if they just completely deleted pvp/ or stopped updating it, I wouoldn't care either. That's how dead pvp is to me in this game.

`edit ---- Just 100% blah. No amount of reward luring etc going to make me interested in it either. It's just completely dead and gone for me. Like a pet I loved that is no more. I can't sit around and play with it now that it's gone, but I can look back fondly on the good times.