This game needs way more wards!

[Avidria]

I'm fairly certain the dev could make apartments better if the community would make actual post about it, but they would rather make 600 post about needing more wards and not being about to own the mansion on the hill. Apartments are instance housing, tell SE how to fix them ><

I've seen plenty of posts in several threads on how they could improve apartments, and I've made several of those posts myself. If they're not gonna overhaul the whole system, they should be adding more wards AND updating apartments to leave options to be larger and adding an outdoor space for crossbreed gardening.

[Ultimatecalibur]

adding an outdoor space for crossbreed gardening.

That has been hinted as coming in the future with a minion farm even if not attached directly to housing.

[Jojoya]

That has been hinted as coming in the future with a minion farm even if not attached directly to housing.

A minion farm doesn't sound anything at all like gardening though.

I know when "player run farms" were mentioned back at the FanFests, a lot of players assumed that meant gardening. Everything I've seen SE mention about them since has them tied to minions with no mention of gardening. I definitely would not pin any hopes on it.

[Dyvid]

I've seen plenty of posts in several threads on how they could improve apartments, and I've made several of those posts myself. If they're not gonna overhaul the whole system, they should be adding more wards AND updating apartments to leave options to be larger and adding an outdoor space for crossbreed gardening.

I mean you say that but before I necro posted a thread the Housing forums had 7 complaint threads about housing plot and zero about apartment improvements.

[Avidria]

I mean you say that but before I necro posted a thread the Housing forums had 7 complaint threads about housing plot and zero about apartment improvements.

They're usually in the same thread. Like somebody else mentioned, there's literally a post on page 2 here talking about apartments. It's an oft posted solution to there just not being enough housing. I vaguely remember one thread where we spent like three pages straight debating the value of gardening and why current apartments are insufficient as a solution - usually because someone tends to come into a complaint thread about lack of housing and say "we have instanced housing, it's apartments!"

No. We don't. Not without some massive improvements to them. Otherwise it's an FC room without an FC, and I use mine basically for storage and nothing else right now.

[Dyvid]

They're usually in the same thread. Like somebody else mentioned, there's literally a post on page 2 here talking about apartments. It's an oft posted solution to there just not being enough housing. I vaguely remember one thread where we spent like three pages straight debating the value of gardening and why current apartments are insufficient as a solution - usually because someone tends to come into a complaint thread about lack of housing and say "we have instanced housing, it's apartments!"

No. We don't. Not without some massive improvements to them. Otherwise it's an FC room without an FC, and I use mine basically for storage and nothing else right now.

And yet not one person on this thread went to the housing Forums and made a post in regards to improving Apartments, not one. My point is people are quick to make new threads about Wards and Instance Housing but could care less about trying to fix apartments.

People have posted about it. The dev team is notoriously slow about implementing features. Case in point, people asked for years about marker placement tools. It took a third party program to actually get them to implement their own variation of it.

And you are right, the team prioritizes based on the biggest demand, which based on the Forums, more Wards. The point I'm trying to make is if people make a big enough wave about upgrading Apartments the devs might actually look into it over adding new more wards

[Skivvy]

And yet not one person on this thread went to the housing Forums and made a post in regards to improving Apartments, not one. My point is people are quick to make new threads about Wards and Instance Housing but could care less about trying to fix apartments.

People have definitely asked for improvements to apartments. Just because you may not see a flood of them here, it doesn't mean it hasn't been done. Houses ARE the bigger draw however, so it makes sense there would be more requests related to the homes.

[Dyvid]

People have definitely asked for improvements to apartments. Just because you may not see a flood of them here, it doesn't mean it hasn't been done. Houses ARE the bigger draw however, so it makes sense there would be more requests related to the homes.

And I agree but also understand they come with an inherit technique flaw from the games design which causes their limit. Better to focus on things that can be change with meaningful changes than those that can't.

[Avidria]

And yet not one person on this thread went to the housing Forums and made a post in regards to improving Apartments, not one. My point is people are quick to make new threads about Wards and Instance Housing but could care less about trying to fix apartments.

And you are right, the team prioritizes based on the biggest demand, which based on the Forums, more Wards. The point I'm trying to make is if people make a big enough wave about upgrading Apartments the devs might actually look into it over adding new more wards

I don't think people not making threads specifically asking for better apartments means they don't care about them. I don't frequent the housing forums at all so I really don't know what goes on there, but from a lot of what I've seen it seems to be that people just want other solutions. They want the system as a whole to be fixed, in several different forms. Everyone has a different idea of what that solution would look like. Personally I'd prefer an entirely different system where we have instanced wards - as in, each plot is instanced so they look like they do now but the doorway to the plot is where the instance line is. A bit like BDO style housing.

But that'd require a massive change with odds of happening close to zero, so more wards + instanced housing/better apartments + different types of wards (townhouses, multi-level plots, etc) are the suggestions I usually throw out there.

Point being just because you see it less often doesn't mean people haven't asked for it or that people don't care about apartments. It's just not necessarily the most popular or desired solution, or may not necessarily take that exact form when discussed.

[ForteNightshade]

And you are right, the team prioritizes based on the biggest demand, which based on the Forums, more Wards. The point I'm trying to make is if people make a big enough wave about upgrading Apartments the devs might actually look into it over adding new more wards

If that were true, we'd have Egi glamours by now. Better yet, the Range would all have their damage massively increased as people have been going on about it since Shadowbringers' release. How about Monk, a job Yoshida outright said the dev team was "most proud of" this expansion despite it addressing almost none of the complaints people had throughout Stormblood, and subsequently requiring a panic adjustment five weeks into Shadowbringers' launch because people hated it that much? And they still haven't gotten it right yet.

They don't prioritize what the fanbase complains the loudest about. They pick things they want to work on.