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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldevern View Post
    The housing is broken. There's unfortunatly nothing new.
    Many people don't give a f*** about neighborood but they keep this system as if neighborood were the Alpha and the Omega.
    The neighborood is broken since individuals can get a house, it makes ghosts towns but never mind, they prioritize wards with broken neighborood. sigh...

    They could upgrade flats, offer several size, a greenhouse but no... always wards...
    With a centrale aetheryte they could propose instancied housing with gardens and simulated neighborood but... we don't see anything of this kind.

    I have no illusions about Ishgard.
    I do care about neighborhoods, the instances houses are in are one of the nicest instances in the damn game and i see people spending time there, its just that there are 30 wards of those instances and people are spread through those wards. If limsa had 30 or so wards it would be the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
    I do care about neighborhoods, the instances houses are in are one of the nicest instances in the damn game and i see people spending time there, its just that there are 30 wards of those instances and people are spread through those wards. If limsa had 30 or so wards it would be the same.
    Many neither means all or every...

    Because some people care about neighborood all other are ignored.

    And every time I go in wards, in majority they are dead empty. The ones populated are those with a big FC in the area. It is like that since the release of the housing and worst since they opened it to individuals.

    And you do understand "it is dead" as "delete housing". We don't ask that. They could just upgrade apartments to make them interesting with different sizes and a greenhouse. It is not a big deal. At least, it is the fastest and lightest solution.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldevern View Post
    Many neither means all or every...

    Because some people care about neighborood all other are ignored.

    And every time I go in wards, in majority they are dead empty. The ones populated are those with a big FC in the area. It is like that since the release of the housing and worst since they opened it to individuals.
    The all others you are talking about are exaggerating the problem.
    Each server has 5040 plots, which is going to increase up to 6300 with the upcoming new housing area in future patch.
    So depending on the server these are enough to give 70-100% of players on each server their own housing plot, and there a lot of people who simply dont care about housing, so you could say on the medium and small populated servers there are enough of houses for those who want a house and i could even see a lot of plots in twintania right now in the mist being empty.

    This problem persists only on large server and during the virus pandemic, due to the demolotion being cancelled for some time. Give it some time and OP and you will be able to get a house you want, i never see the same people complaining over this housing system i guess they got what they wanted anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nedkel View Post
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    There are both FC and individuals and when you see one FC with TWO FULL WARDS, the problem exists more than you want to believe it.
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    Imo the smart move if feasible would be to open new wards everywhere and add Ishgard with the increased number at the same time.

    Still a bandaid fix to a not so great system but still a bit better than funneling everyone into a battle over one housing area like when they added Shirogane.
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    The housing wards are the deadest zones in the game. Thing is the inside of the house is instanced. It's not like you can be walking along and see people through the window, which I'm sure people would complain about if that were possible. Iirc Wildstar gave you a big plot of land in your own instance, but you also had neighboring plots. SWTOR housing is instanced but it feels much less claustrophobic. It would be cool to have your own floating island in the Sea of Clouds.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsQi View Post
    The housing wards are the deadest zones in the game. Thing is the inside of the house is instanced. It's not like you can be walking along and see people through the window, which I'm sure people would complain about if that were possible. Iirc Wildstar gave you a big plot of land in your own instance, but you also had neighboring plots. SWTOR housing is instanced but it feels much less claustrophobic. It would be cool to have your own floating island in the Sea of Clouds.
    XIV's housing just bums me out. Honestly, this game should not have limited housing. I'd love for them to introduce proper-instanced housing that is available to everyone. Not just an apartment-like instance, but something with a nice view, decent yard, house you can just walk right into without having to zone (again). Make it feel open and airy. As you mentioned, most wards are incredibly dead and empty. It was a nice idea, but it's just not something that seems to work that well in XIV.


    Wildstar had amazing housing! It was fully instanced, but everyone got their own island to themselves - and early on in the game as well. They later added a community feature where 5 players could all live together in one instance - each still with their individual plots, but on one giant island. You could tweak so much with their housing, and some people were just insanely creative. I loved visiting the various islands to see what people could come up with. Sadly, I got into the game far too late (never reached max level before they shut it down). Tis a regret of mine

    I think my own personal favorite for housing is Archeage. It's out in the open world, and they have such a huge variety of different homes and buildings you can choose from. They have a basic homes, fancy gilded homes, farm houses, farm land, plazas, gigantic beanstalks, treehouses, mansions, and other things. It makes for rather unique looking housing areas (which are scattered all over the place). Since it's all out in the open, your windows and doors open up into what's outside and you don't have that awful boxed in feel. The downside there is that it is finite space, so you may not always be able to get as much land as you want right off the bat (can always wait for demos or buy from other people though). I miss the housing quite a bit D:

    BDO also has an interesting take on housing. They have phased housing (I believe that's the term). It's a bit like the apartments in XIV where everyone just uses the same entrance, but there is no cap to how many people can 'own' the same location. They have available rooms and houses scattered throughout towns and in the outskirts as well. You can rent as many as you like, as long as you have enough contribution points to do so. Also, you can still see the world outside your window so again, so it helps a little bit with that closed-in feeling you can get in some games. TO ME, it still felt a bit boxed in, but I really enjoyed how much flexibility it gives you.

    The only other game I've played with housing was XI. But even there, every player got their own mog-house (apartment type instance) that could be expanded to add a second story, patio, and had a large garden instance. Compared to games now, it's definitely lacking in some spots, but I was always nice to see them expand it over the years.
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    We have been asking for more housing and the option to have instanced house ad nauseum since housing was released with only 8 wards and no subdivisions and no automatic generation of wards as they were needed, which was promised when housing was being introduced and like oh so many things, never spoken of again after it wasn't implemented. One of those reasons to not believe anything you hear until you see it in the actual game and also the reason they are so tight lipped these days.

    Just gotta face facts, they will add wards every now and then, but they are not in any rush and do not really care if you have feedback about it cause their mind is made up. Its low priority. Each patch seems massive but they are getting progressively less meaty and with the story line coming to an end likely in 6.x, who knows what they will do with the game as a whole after. Especially after Yoshida moves on, which will also likely be at the same time, he has already said as much.
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    Well i cant realy belive that like for a big studio like SE and the FF Franchise it should not be possible to find a solution. I also think its more like Anima said, they just dont care and if complains get to big they just add a handfull of wards that still dosnt solve the problem. They should just enable buying plots on other worlds and allowing to transform private houses into FC houses, that would allready help quite a bit even if it dosnt solve the problem. althenas approach also dosnt sound so bad, low pop servers dont need the same amount of wards like high pop servers and in the feature the numbers of wards added should depend on the size of the population of the server. In my DC alone are 2 worlds where you could cut easly 3-5 wards from each zone and there would be still enough free plots for the ppl from this server.

    Also aslong transfer comes with so many penalitys and restrictions for sutch a high price, transfering to another world is not an option. Other MMOs before and after this game was released handle stuff like this way better. Either SE is just incompetent or to greedy when it comes to this stuff.
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    Just add a rooftop or balcony garden to apartments. Solves a lot of the issues right there.
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