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    Theory on Zodairk and Hydylian

    Elidibus is Zodairk heart

    Venet is Hydaelyn heart but Venet has yet to reveal herself or has she reveal and none us realize who she is. aka the warrior of light.

    how does one defeat elidibus solution the crystal tower. I theories that crystal arch is died but in his effect save both first and prevent elidibus for cause more damage to the first and the source he will bind elidibus to himself and take elidibus with him the theif really does run away with the hero prize in this case
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    Quote Originally Posted by Savagelf View Post
    Elidibus is Zodairk heart

    Venet is Hydaelyn heart but Venet has yet to reveal herself or has she reveal and none us realize who she is. aka the warrior of light.

    how does one defeat elidibus solution the crystal tower. I theories that crystal arch is died but in his effect save both first and prevent elidibus for cause more damage to the first and the source he will bind elidibus to himself and take elidibus with him the theif really does run away with the hero prize in this case
    What a gory post lol, love the energy.

    Your theory isn't much of a stretch I'd say, would make sense.

    I think that white robed hooded figure we've seen with Zenos might be Venet, aka the heart of Hydaelyn, with how it seems they made Zodiark itself his next hunt.

    I think (and hope) we will eventually turn on Hydaelyn and consider it as an enemy as well. Would be very interesting to see how that plays out.
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    This would be more appropriate in the lore section, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by SamRF View Post
    I think that white robed hooded figure we've seen with Zenos might be Venet, aka the heart of Hydaelyn, with how it seems they made Zodiark itself his next hunt.
    I honest to goodness am expecting the figure to be
    Asahi (Who was ascended into an Ascian after his usefulness as a pawn)
    , because the stature, voice, and obvious motive all match up, they claim to only have second hand knowledge of the last days, and it's someone Zenos actually recognizes which doesn't leave a very long list of potential candidates.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    This would be more appropriate in the lore section, but...



    I honest to goodness am expecting the figure to be
    Asahi (Who was ascended into an Ascian after his usefulness as a pawn)
    , because the stature, voice, and obvious motive all match up, they claim to only have second hand knowledge of the last days, and it's someone Zenos actually recognizes which doesn't leave a very long list of potential candidates.
    There's this silly part of me that hopes if that's true then it's
    actually Lahabread possessing Asahi's body :P because man did I hate that dude, and after seeing the character development Emet and even Elidibus have gotten, it really feels like there's some potential in Lahabrea that we never got to explore

    ...side note but I've apparently memed too much in Prae because I unironically typod his name as Lahabread twice in this post lmao
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    lahabread is dead we killed him. I don't believe hydealyn has any desire except the survie of are world. why is are world called Hydealyn if isn't for Hydealyn her self being part of it. I believe it foolishness to believe that hydealyn has any other desire but good of surive of Erozath and are world. Venet Follower view where that the lives that come after them have the right to live when creator they gods Hydealyn and Zodark their god to on polar opsite of each other view Zodark what restore what was by human sacrifice and the will of ascians. Hydealyn desire to protect the life was new and just came into to beings in many way Hydealyn is protect of life and it persevere, Zodark is oppsite he is the take of life and it destruction. Zodark is in many the god of death and Hydealyn the Goddress of life. I understand that many want believe Hydealyn is evil but this a human concept if one must be will look thing through god view thing in this case Hydealyn view she protect life and allow it keep going. while Zodark destroy it. I understand shadowbringer may people want question good and evil it good writing to make a villian make you question your choice yet realize that your character life would one they snuff out for ascians desire goals.

    in end battle were we told that remember we once lived. there double mean for this if in fact the warrior of light is reborn Venet then it remind that she also once live as one them.

    the destruction of both Hydealyn and Zodark would be end of are world if you think video game term how has

    Hydealyn really isn't threat to anyone
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    I think the entire point was that neither Hydaelyn nor Zodiark are inherently good or evil
    Zodiark was built on sacrifice to restore what was lost - sacrificing current life to restore the past
    Hydaelyn was born to protect new life - to prevent further sacrifice, and let go of the past


    But at the end of the day, both are primals, born of the desperate hopes of a dying people, extraordinarily powerful and frankly, extraordinarily dangerous to anyone that happens to be opposing either force.
    From the Ascian's perspective, Hydaelyn and all of her followers are a threat to everything they stand for - even if they weren't tempered by Zodiark, our goals (preservation of life on the Source and other stars) are fundamentally opposed to theirs (sacrificing all life on the stars for the sake of restoring THEIR star, assuming we're not gonna find out something else is going on too)
    WE are a threat to THEM, whether they think we're some pathetic inferior lifeform or not
    Right now I'm really interested to find out what the primals really want, and how this is gonna play out


    Would definitely be interesting to learn we're Hydaelyn's heart, and not very surprising
    As long as it's not gonna turn out to be Minfilia. Her story was sad, but I'm not sad to see her gone.
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    Last edited by Avidria; 04-19-2020 at 12:37 AM. Reason: Oops wall of text also think I misread so small edit
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    I hope Ryne will be brought to source I would love see her wake up infront of minfilia mother here Hydaelyn has take your daughter now she have return her in some form it be poetic in way. I argee with you Avidria I often seen protect life and protect new life a good not as evil.

    my hope is Ryne Is return before the rest of scian are what surpise that would be. part me think her return will be at hand eden and oracle of darkness sarfice her own life to insure it. I long believe Eden is prime of light or holy.

    it still make Hydaelyn the goddress of life if you think about, this view that person faith empower an prime or god or goddress isn't old to fantasy Warhammer has similar concepts to it. It very different for my Christian belief, through it is interest concept none less

    that why I don't think hydaelyn is threat to anyone she protect life she doesn't ascian at her beacon and called. so she isn't much of a threat to anyone. the light on first was the ascian doing not her doing. she doesn't have any hide goals mearly protect and preservation life is a threat to anyone but ascian. I don't understand why people want bretayed her for that to fight gaint crystal being well go seek Zodarck he a gaint crystal being maybe because he the undog in this matter but he isn't much undog he already had his minion force rejoining of 7 stars. through I don't think there be a fight between us Zodarck there no point or a fight between hydealyn no point for that ether. if we trap Elidibus who aether mind you into crystal tower that will be enough and set it defensive to destroy any ascian that tried to free him that be fine.

    Zenos crave battle he crave war he a fight that will evenaulty be his end. him vs Zodarck even in Zodarck weak state Zodarck would win. I suppect it more attempt for who every is push Zenos to free Zodarck I suppect Zodarck would absorb Zenos into himself.
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    Yeah, yeah I get you... I get you.. I think. Actually, no I don't. I have no idea what you are talking about.
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    Interesting. I, too, enjoy learning more about Exodia and Hydlide.
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    Tbh bassed on how things have played out i think we are a fragment of one of the core ascions so your thought that we may be venet is plausible though idk
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