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    For this expansion tier i pretend Eden story never happend. I mean the shape «we» created looks cooler than original and hence i dont believe why SE made that direction for this raid series.
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    I think FOMO in this case is being used to mean fear of missing out. Not really a big fan myself tbh.
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    How many will actually be able to do these if at EX level? Already mentors instaquit when they get EX's. I just had this in Ramuh where 2 instaquit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosa_Frandlia View Post
    How many will actually be able to do these if at EX level? Already mentors instaquit when they get EX's. I just had this in Ramuh where 2 instaquit.
    The instaquit probably has more to do with the fact most DF parties are full of new players that don't know what they're getting into, haven't looked anything up, and are just overall unprepared skill wise. It's essentially a blind prog group with a bunch of bellow average players. I'm not condoning leaving but that's most likely why they do it, not because they don't know how to clear the fight. It's also part of the reason why I don't support ex trials in the mentor roulette. There's such a big gap in commitment between a 2mn guildhest and a full lockout Ex trial. Those of us that like running ex trials and savage to help others do so in the PF. At least people have an idea of what they're getting into there.

    Those that clear current ex trials will clear these unreal trials, simple as that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaMett View Post
    The instaquit probably has more to do with the fact most DF parties are full of new players that don't know what they're getting into, haven't looked anything up, and are just overall unprepared skill wise. It's essentially a blind prog group with a bunch of bellow average players. I'm not condoning leaving but that's most likely why they do it, not because they don't know how to clear the fight. It's also part of the reason why I don't support ex trials in the mentor roulette. There's such a big gap in commitment between a 2mn guildhest and a full lockout Ex trial. Those of us that like running ex trials and savage to help others do so in the PF. At least people have an idea of what they're getting into there.

    Those that clear current ex trials will clear these unreal trials, simple as that.
    Mentor roulette exists so you can help new players and not for your easy clears, if people got some traininig and you ran out of time, then you have served your purpose and should feel happy that you helped others.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    Mentor roulette exists so you can help new players and not for your easy clears, if people got some traininig and you ran out of time, then you have served your purpose and should feel happy that you helped others.
    Mentor Roulette doesn't exist to carry people who can't learn to follow basic instructions.

    After 2 wipes with zero improvement I'm leaving.

    I'll stick around as long as the group is improving but if they are not, I'm not wasting my time.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosa_Frandlia View Post
    How many will actually be able to do these if at EX level? Already mentors instaquit when they get EX's. I just had this in Ramuh where 2 instaquit.
    Use Party Finder when doing EX or higher content. Generally most people don't use DF for that content so PF will fill faster, plus everyone will know what they are going into and you can go over strats etc before heading into the fight.
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    Last edited by Delis; 04-25-2020 at 10:31 AM. Reason: Edit to post reason to why use PF

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delis View Post
    Use Party Finder when doing EX or higher content. Generally most people don't use DF for that content so PF will fill faster, plus everyone will know what they are going into and you can go over strats etc before heading into the fight.
    I know, but got it in Mentor Roulette. I was using it to make a point that so many don't know Shiva EX as in having only done it unsynced. Next group I got Shiva EX 15 minutes in progress and asked if unreal prep, one other mentor laughed and said yes.
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    I'm not a fan of the limited aspect, though beyond that everything sounds good.
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    I'm not really expecting any drastic changes to the trials difficulty-wise and more just changing things to be more "modern" by using new AoE indicators wherever applicable, removing the perma-KOs from falling in pre-Sophia trials, etc.
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