Unreal Trials

[Shurrikhan]

There might be a big enough following of people that run ex but not savage to warrant this. Hard to tell without data (that I assume they have).

But, we see Shiva, Ifruda, Ixamuh, Leviathan, and Titan 2.0 in Normal Raids before we're even allowed to attempt their Savage versions. It's not like they lack for exposure.

[EaMett]

But, we see Shiva, Ifruda, Ixamuh, Leviathan, and Titan 2.0 in Normal Raids before we're even allowed to attempt their Savage versions. It's not like they lack for exposure.

Sure, but if you break it down into tiers of difficulty and/or playtime it makes a bit more sense. If all you've done is Shiva normal and you enjoy running ex content then normal was most likely not a challenge at all and your exposure to it was pretty limited (compared to progging a fight for instance). So having a more demanding shiva fight could be a logical decision.
Not saying they couldn't have come totally out of left field with something else like mog king, Odin, etc. But there are probably more reasons to it than just exposure. Shiva also seems like an easy fight to upscale and test the whole unreal thing with.

[Hanayumi]

This. Having that as their first test subject seems a bit... odd.

Why not at least something more unique from our recent raid-trials, like Good King Moogle Mog or any of the Warring Triad?

Yeah they mentioned people would prolly be less likely to do the content if it was something out of the blue, while shiva is fairly fresh in people minds cause of raid so they're starting off with that. Was also mentioned they'll add more every patch or so.

[Liam_Harper]

I'm interested in how this mini-game works. The reward scheme will be important for the long-term value of these trials (for example, regular min ilv EX Shiva is a fun challenge too but no one is doing it because there's no reward worth the effort).

Was there any more info on this? A "game" implies something you can lose, or at the very least RNG similar to moogle scratchcards. Will we be running Shiva Unreal 500 times to have a "chance" at that 1% Faux Hallows top prize?

[Enla]

I'm actually kinda excited for this. I have fond memories of some of the older EX's and really look forward to being able to try my hand at them while they're on-content again. Makes me wonder what's coming next since they skipped straight to Shiva, ignoring Ramuh and Moggle Mog on top of the eternal trio that is Garuda, Ifrit, and Titan. Are they going to do Ravana next then? Or are they just gonna jump around?

[Gula]

I'm actually kinda excited for this. I have fond memories of some of the older EX's and really look forward to being able to try my hand at them while they're on-content again. Makes me wonder what's coming next since they skipped straight to Shiva, ignoring Ramuh and Moggle Mog on top of the eternal trio that is Garuda, Ifrit, and Titan. Are they going to do Ravana next then? Or are they just gonna jump around?

They skipped to Shiva because of Eden's Gate. They wanted players to look back on the original. My guess is that they will either go by patch relevance, or- if development permits, they can have 2 at a time for HW and SB.

[ElazulHP]

They skipped to Shiva because of Eden's Gate. They wanted players to look back on the original. My guess is that they will either go by patch relevance, or- if development permits, they can have 2 at a time for HW and SB.

Loliva vs OG Shiva

FIGHT!

(OG Shiva Wins!)

[Fynlar]

Also, a lot of players weren't around when those fights were relevant.

There already exist methods of doing these older fights closer to the "originally intended" level. It's up to the players whether or not to make use of those methods.

Because they don't want players to outlevel and outgear those fights like the old ones,

That's... kind of what happens in a vertical-progression MMO, though. They literally made the game to be this way.

idk though, I'm just not really a fan of the whole FOMO thing. With seasonal events and such, it's acceptable, but I don't want to see it in actual game content.

[Gula]

There already exist methods of doing these older fights closer to the "originally intended" level. It's up to the players whether or not to make use of those methods.

That's... kind of what happens in a vertical-progression MMO, though. They literally made the game to be this way.

idk though, I'm just not really a fan of the whole FOMO thing. With seasonal events and such, it's acceptable, but I don't want to see it in actual game content.

Besides housing and crafting, what content in XIV is not flavor of the month?

[Gemina]

There already exist methods of doing these older fights closer to the "originally intended" level. It's up to the players whether or not to make use of those methods.

Indeed there is. But getting players to use those methods is another level of difficulty most won't deal with, or it simply takes too long.

I honestly don't know how anyone can be against getting more relevant trials, regardless of who it is we're fighting. It also gives them to opportunity to utilize some of the fights they've left to a single instance. Odin quickly comes to mind.