Adding Ishgard housing will NOT fix housing

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[worldofneil]

Actually adding Ishgard housing probably would largely fix housing, just not in the way you're asking for.

21 wards, each with a subdivision would be another 1260 houses per server (85,680 new houses across all 68 servers).

There's only so many actively people playing this game so combined with housing demolition (when it's enabled) every time they add new houses the gap between supply and demand is drastically reduced. It will get to the point where there's more houses than are necessary.

In fact, some servers, like my own, still have plenty of smalls and the majority of which are greatly reduced in price (so it's unlikely they have the hidden timer) so although like all servers we have a shortage of medium and large houses, if you want a house... they're right there.

[Yshtola]

I am not claiming to have any knowledge of what SE intend or have intended to do with housing

Good, because you don't.

[Yshtola]

Thank you for your insightful reply, it adds much to the discussion.

Sorry buddy, you're the one who felt compelled to start a thread about something that has been discussed over and over. I would suggest you to do some research before coming up with a plethora of false statements.

[Jojoya]

So you're policing who can make a discussion and who cant? Seems quite harassing, I wonder if it's allowed? Generally when someone disagrees with a statement they either ignore it or refute it, as you're not taking the time to discuss the "false statements" I assume you're only here to harass me. Have a good day!

Ignore that poster and his plethora of accounts. He only posts to stir the pot since he is one of those doing loopholes in the system to avoid the posted ownership rules.

I agree that simply adding a new district and/or new wards doesn't solve the problem but as worldofneil mentioned, it will reduce significantly the problem where it exists. A 25% increase to housing with the addition of a new district is a big gain. There aren't that many players like Y'shtola trying to buy up as many houses as their multiple service accounts can handle to lock other players out of houses.

There's also the chance that SE may not merely be adding another district and more wards. They have talked about adding size options to apartments. At the last EU FanFest, they mentioned they're were trying to develop technology that would allow players to see what is happening in a non-instanced area from an instanced area. If they could make that happen then they could give us instanced house plots within the wards while retaining the neighborhood feeling that was intended by having wards.

But those are things they have mentioned they are discussing and trying to develop, not things they have stated they will be able to give us with certainty.

SE is not oblivious to the situation and player feelings but they can't make changes overnight. We know something will be coming after we finish the Ishgard Restoration. Let's see what we get then give feedback on our impressions when we know exactly what we are getting.

Finally, a lottery system solves nothing nor does it make anything more fair. There are multiple ways for a lottery system to be abused as easily as the current system. And no one is going to be happy when they still don't have the house they want because there aren't enough houses. We've gone into detail on that topic on the past.

[Jirah]

I don’t mean to push people under busses but I know a few players who own like 3 homes each through FCs and alts somehow. They log in just so they don’t lose them.

My entire ward is desolate full of dead FCs and unsubbed players

[Alyanna_Elingval]

SE is not going to retroactively go back and take houses, and they shouldn't. You can't go back and punish people for something that was not against any rule when they did it.

As for the housing system getting worse with each fix, I completely disagree. In the past, you would have had zero chance at a house. Houses were being sold in individual transactions, and changing hands before anyone knew they were on the market. One person relinquished the property and someone else would immediately buy it.

Housing will probably never be what people want without SE completely overhauling the entire system. But at the end of the day they have limited resources, so when it comes down to adding more story missions, more raids, more dungeons, or housing. What serves the most players, retains the most players and brings the most new players to the game. That's what's going take priority when it comes to resources. Adding wards here and there is probably the best solution they have between doing nothing and revamping the entire thing.

[Mhaeric]

Just ignore Y'shtola. That is one of that player's multiple accounts that have bought up most of a single housing ward (see their signatures) and only post to get a rise out of people usually in posts about the housing system. They never have anything worthwhile to contribute to a discussion.

[FishStyx]

altho i skimmed the last few comments, i have to say that Typhoon has adequate housing available for most players, be it in the Goblet the least liked of the residential areas non the less there is plots out there. I wont go on about my own posts that would contradict or at least digress from this one. All I will say tho, is best of luck to those who are trying to purchase their first plot and may it be a nice one when you obtain it.

[Alyanna_Elingval]

Which is still happening, except now people are buying FCs either with gil or real money in order to get a house and that's only if they don't have a house to re-locate from. If they already have a plot then they can get a large for prices like 300 million gil. I don't really see a reason for someone to have more than one house, especially when it is a rather scarce commodity at the moment.

I honestly think adding more housing plots is just going to make the situation worse. People are already planning to swoop in and purchase a large amount of properties so that they can be resold at a later date, the only people benefiting there are the resellers. We'll never know how much of an effect housing has on whether players quit or not, but Square seem to be doing the opposite of other publishers and treat housing as something to be traded and sold rather than a cool extra for players. BDO seems to do it perfectly where each city has a set number of plots but each one is instanced and available to every player.

Surely Square want to pump up Mog Station sales so wouldn't making it easier for players to purchase homes or giving every player a home give them an incentive to spend real money? A new mount is one sale, but releasing furniture every couple of months guarantees multiple sales.
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Are more or less people looking for houses going to have them after these wards are added? Obviously a lot of people who didn't have houses before will have them. How in the world is the situation going to be worse? How many people who didn't have house before this last addition of wards have them now? Are you going to tell those people that the situation got worse?

The mistake that SE has made with the ward additions in the past is putting a moratorium on private buyers and giving people ample notice beforehand so they have time to create these dummy free companies. Private buyers should have access from day one. If that happens even more people looking for houses would get them.

But at the end of the day more legitimate players having houses after the addition of new wards can never be a worse situation. I just don't see the logic in this statement.