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    Dragonexx's Avatar
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    Lachelle Kisne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    What is the canon explanation for that? Does the sheer power of the gear overwhelm the user and melt their face like they just looked into the Ark of the Covenant?
    Possibly. At least, the lore for one of the monk Artifact gears describes it as doing that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Encyclopedia Eorzea
    “Only elders of the Fist of Rhalgr are permitted to don this attire. Though the thread used in its creation is the same as that woven into the standard temple habit, the veteran monks looming the tantra cloth imbue each stitch with concentrated energy, resulting in a significantly higher rate of aetherial conductivity. A monk’s chakras are thus greatly expanded when swathed in such material, but without the training required to moderate the excessive outpouring of aether, an unseasoned wearer would bleed out his entire life essence in a matter of moments.”
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    Enkidoh Roux
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    There was also an old bit of 1.0 lore concerning WHM AF that has since been not only retconned but completely scrapped (specifically, the WHM AF body piece the Healer's Robe) - in 1.0 the robe was unique because it was actually an elemental that had changed itself into that robe (I'm not entirelly sure of the exact circumstances but it was something along the lines of like why Midgardsormr turned into a minion late in ARR, to follow the player's character and ensure that they really were who and what they claimed to be). Hence, this naturally explained why only a WHM can wear that robe.

    Of course ARR changed all that, but it still makes sense why only a WHM is permitted to wear such vestements - the outfit is aetherically attuned to only WHMs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rannie View Post
    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Ryphen Darconel
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    I always chalked up the WoL's ability to easily pick up new disciplines as a manifestation of their Echo. Just like their uncanny knack for finding things that give other people trouble.
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    Shikaree Sinhunter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Tataru Taru is both a Receptionist (spy), a failed miner and a failed Summoner (at least level 70) if you can call that taking on multiple jobs.
    She was also a weaver too, if we count the tailored stuff she made for Yshtola and the WOL in two different portions of cutscenes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    Interestign question. I'd mentionthe Scions but they were in classes prior to SB (lyse and alisale) and Shadowbringers (everyone still alive)
    Yshtola was a Miner in the beginning of ARR as well!
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Well she """fought""" in a level 70 battle wearing level 60 gear, so she must have made some progress beyond level 5.
    It went about as well as a Lv60 player in a Lv70 battle would expect, too.


    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    What is the canon explanation for that? Does the sheer power of the gear overwhelm the user and melt their face like they just looked into the Ark of the Covenant?
    I figure maybe it's that whatever stat-boosting enchantments are in the clothes make them feel uncomfortable (if not outright dangerous as in the quote earlier) if you're not sufficiently trained to wear them.


    Quote Originally Posted by Elkanah View Post
    Yshtola was a Miner in the beginning of ARR as well!
    She dressed up as a miner at one point in post-ARR, but that's all.

    You may be thinking of Minfilia who is mentioned a few times to have been a miner previously.
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryphen View Post
    I always chalked up the WoL's ability to easily pick up new disciplines as a manifestation of their Echo. Just like their uncanny knack for finding things that give other people trouble.
    Considering what we know of Shadowbringers...

    It could have also been something they had the power to do way back in Amaurot as the 14th Member of the Convocation.
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    Into a nearby phone booth!

    Quote Originally Posted by Minnel View Post
    I did notice that npcs are very capable of handling soulstones and developing talent toward a specific class, but are "average joes" able to handle multiple classes like WoL?
    Also is there like a lore explanation to how WoL swaps class and gears instantly? Cause I hope WoL isn't stripping naked in the middle of a street then changing into different gears
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  9. #29
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    Avarnia Corthal
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    This is actually answered to a degree in the lore book. I can't remember the exact passage, but it states that soul crystals are actually a huge drain on a person's aether due to the attunement required. One soul crystal is safe for most people with 2 being possible amongst the highly aetheric. The pc by contrast generates a whopping amount of aether by way of the echo or blessing of light which is how Anima and Fray could draw on them to sustain themselves temporarily.
    It should be noted that job crystals get more aetherically costly as they get older, the MCH one for example doesn't have any aether drain which is why the less magically inclined can use it. It should also be noted that whenever the pc swaps out of a job, they temporarily unattune to it as evidenced by the level 80 drk journal.

    many adventurers and even none adventurers train in at least 2 classes as we know them, so classes by themselves are not too strenuous- they just take time. Why else would so many guildmates cross train in conjury, or even Thancred having rogue and gladiator training pre gunblade.

    it should also be pointed out that the WOL at least in previous iterations of the game could use multi class abilities before SE sadly removed them.
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    Saika Kinoshita
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    This is actually answered to a degree in the lore book. I can't remember the exact passage, but it states that soul crystals are actually a huge drain on a person's aether due to the attunement required. One soul crystal is safe for most people with 2 being possible amongst the highly aetheric. The pc by contrast generates a whopping amount of aether by way of the echo or blessing of light which is how Anima and Fray could draw on them to sustain themselves temporarily.
    It should be noted that job crystals get more aetherically costly as they get older, the MCH one for example doesn't have any aether drain which is why the less magically inclined can use it. It should also be noted that whenever the pc swaps out of a job, they temporarily unattune to it as evidenced by the level 80 drk journal.
    Can you provide a source for your claims as I am unable to find any mention of a "drain" on a person's aether within the soul crystal lorebook entries that I've thus far been able to find. Furthermore, I've looked over the level 80 DRK journal entries and have found no mention of this "unattunement" that you speak of.
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