Results of a reddit job satisfaction poll

[Katie_Kitty]

Well the reason I don't play Red Mage much any more is because I never get to use the full spectrum of abilities anymore.

Its boring just pressing two or three buttons all the time.

Hell almost ALL 8-Man content is like that. Which makes it boring as hell for most jobs because it cuts out almost all of the abilities of a job with the exception of a few. At least with alliance raids or 24 Man content I got to use my Raise a lot more, like ressing a good 5 players extremely fast to get them back up.

Or in Dungeons where I actually use AoE abilities and even use my healing on the Tank when the Healer is not keeping things up.

8-Man Content (Raids/Trials) are boring as hell with most of the jobs because of that.

You never get to use half the abilities of the jobs.

W-what? I have no idea what you're talking about. If you're not using your job's kit then that's a you problem not a game problem.

[Amnmaat]

Monk is in a real need to get greased lightning revamp, let GL fill up with one demolish and give tornado kick a high CD. Greased lightning just isn't fun outside of A Realm Reborn where it worked because of how few skills jobs had at level 50. Moreover, I still enjoy and do pretty great damage on Monk, but GL really bogs down the job more than the devs realize.

[Esmoire]

Keep in mind the results are slanted: about two-thirds of the people responding do extreme+ content. Meanwhile, according to LuckyBancho's results, raiders are a minority, with about a third of JP players being raiders, while on NA if you look at Crystal the percentage is sub 10% at the lowest end, with much more on Aether but still small. Both results are imperfect and limited, and are going to be skewed both in terms of framing and specifics. For example, some people will do ex, but not raids. I do think almost all players will be plugged into social media, though the vast, vast, vast majority of players are not frequenting Reddit or the FFXIV forums or anything, and they are going to have their own audiences and demographics and all that.

Not to say these results are insignificant, just something to keep in mind as you examine the information. Even abstracted to the furthest degree the results are meaningful; I think they will have enough similarities to how players feel at large to be worth looking at as a community and as a developer. Just trying to encourage a healthy lens to how you assess this information.

[E4EO]

I’m not 100% sold on a job satisfaction poll from Reddit of all places given some of the scum you’ll meet there, but it’s a step in the right direction and aligns with some of posts on this forum, DRK and WAR feeling lackluster, aggro being stupid easy, and healers feeling awful overall.

What we would really need is a JP poll, JP devs like to listen to JP players more than western players (even when western players bloody outnumber them), so if we had this type of poll on the JP forums here, SE might be willing to listen if both JP and the west voice their concerns.

[althenawhm]

Biggest problem with that poll is that it only asked about peoples main job.
If someone abandoned a job due to it sucking they might not have rated it.

[Billythepancake]

Even if the results aren't 100% accurate, it's nice to see I'm not the only one upset about the current state of SCH even outside of the forums and my group of friends.

[Liam_Harper]

It's not 100% fact or concrete statistics or anything, but it still serves as a decent view of how some of the playerbase feel about class design. We can sneer at reddit, but a 2700 person poll is still more accurate than some of our little divided 5-10 page forum discussions (or arguments) which inevitably get derailed.

It lines up well with what I've seen too. AST least popular, WhM more popular, WAR and DRK much less popular than GNB and PLD design-wise.

It's also interesting that AST is the least popular, but currently the strongest healer in the game. There's an important lesson there that players prefer enjoyable gameplay over having the best numbers.

[Vivi_Bushido]

I don't use reddit, so I never voted. Never saw the poll.

[Niyuka]

Nice work OP, and I agree, but on these boards the white knights will never ever accept any realistically achievable metric for FFXIV not being near-perfect, or at least any complaint being invalid.
Even if SE would use an ingame poll and published the results, the white knights would go "casuals dont take that poll, they dont have the time or just click away", or "people happy with the game wont do the poll" and dismiss any criticism.
At this point, this has gotten toxic to the point of being laughable, and I just ignore any opinion that basically says everything is great because you cannot prove, to an arbitrary level of confidence, that its not.

ShB did a lot of things well on its initial release, but both lifecycle of the patches and class design are not good, and its starting to show. The playerbase, by all metrics we have, is shrinking faster (please, white knights, tell me how this is due to the game being older, people not playing being intended, or that its normal even though it didnt drop that much around the same time in HW or SB) and getting more inactive, and looking at the ingame tools for activity (PF, queue times) nothing is really working.

I main GNB and SAM, and got lucky, but I shelved my MNK (in favor of SAM) due to the bad design, and DRK in favor of GNB because the dumbing down of tanks for no reason at all was just painful.

I swear, SE thinks most of us cant even hit 4 buttons in order.

[Rasikko]

At this point, this has gotten toxic to the point of being laughable, and I just ignore any opinion that basically says everything is great because you cannot prove, to an arbitrary level of confidence, that its not.

Everything was great during Heavensward, until lots of people HERE started to run their mouths about the battle system/tanking. Things cascaded from there and you know the result. Now people are wanting to "undo" the very things they asked for because it obviously wasn't as great as they thought it would be, and SE can't and is trying to find a middle ground.