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    Anyone else want to see minor Scions get promoted to bigger roles?

    I think it would be great to expand upon other members within the Scions of the Seventh Dawn even if it's through optional side quests. It's understandable that major Scions such as Y'shtola, Thancred, Urianger, Alphinaud, Alisaie, and even Tataru will always get a lot of screen time but the organization is a bit bigger than just them.

    It doesn't have to be extremely major like Y'shtola's and Thancred's involvement in Shadowbringers but instead something along the lines of Arenvald's involvement in the Post-Stormblood main scenario quests. Arenvald went from a background character to someone that we eventually got to know.

    From what I gathered in the lore book, here is a list of non-major living members still with the organization that could maybe get a plot promotion:
    - Hoary Boulder
    - Coultenet Dailebaure
    - Alianne Vellegrance
    - Riol Forrest
    - Slafswys Helbloefwyn
    - Dariustel Sompt
    - V'mah Tia
    - Ocher Boulder
    - Aenor Cockburne
    - Ephemie Giphelmont
    - Aergmhus Saehstymmysn

    Arenvald Lentinus used to be part of this list but the developers were able to pull him out and expand on his background and identity. F'lhaminn Qesh, while still playing a somewhat minor role, is also a character whose background and identity we are all already familiar with since it ties in with Minfillia which is why I didn't list her.

    Personally, I'd like to see something done with Hoary Boulder since he's always at the center whenever they gather around the background characters. More story on Riol would also be interesting since he was the guy that tipped us off about the Crystal Braves. Lastly, I think Dariustel would be interesting since all Duskwights that play a somewhat bigger role (if any) are always villainous, from what I recall.

    I think this would help flesh out the organization more as a whole and give it more identity than just the small circle of friends that we are familiar with. What do you guys think?
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    Riol has consistently shown himself to be moral, loyal, and capable.

    I understand that, like Minfilia, most of the work he does is behind the scenes, but I still feel like he deserves more screen time. He's even a former member of the non-Echo using primal slayers, the Order of Heroes!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jandroid View Post
    Anyone else want to see minor Scions get promoted to bigger roles?
    Personally I do not. FFXIV suffers from character bloat, the more screentime a minor character gets, the less the major ones get. And the major scions already don't get that much screentime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Riol has consistently shown himself to be moral, loyal, and capable.

    I understand that, like Minfilia, most of the work he does is behind the scenes, but I still feel like he deserves more screen time. He's even a former member of the non-Echo using primal slayers, the Order of Heroes!
    Company. Company of Heroes.
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    I definitely want to see Dariustel back. We don't have enough Duskwight characters, especially as non-villains, and it seemed like he was being set up as a supporting character in ARR (he gets a speaking line in the post-credits "welcome back" scene) but then he drops out entirely and is never seen again. The first lorebook (IIRC) says he's currently monitoring the beast tribes, but there's been little news on that front in ages. Maybe he could team up with Arenvald and Fordola...?
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    I'm conflicted.

    On one hand, it'd be nice to see more of Riol and Arenvald. On the other hand, major characters are already lacking in consistent screen-time due to the amount of attention that the Scions already receive by comparison.
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    Would also like to see more of Horey Boulder, his partner and his brother. And also would like to see how the scions in general are fareing with most of the leadership isekai'd to the first (the WoL technically excluded)

    Would also want to see more of Unukalhai.
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    I definately want to see more of unukalhai. That lad should be a gold mine of lore

    Hoary/coultenet and definately Riol would be nice

    most importantly though, Tataru! we need more of her! She got bugger all screentime yet she's important too. We just need to train her in arcanima or who knows, maybe she'd be really good with an axe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Recon1o6 View Post
    I definately want to see more of unukalhai. That lad should be a gold mine of lore

    Hoary/coultenet and definately Riol would be nice

    most importantly though, Tataru! we need more of her! She got bugger all screentime yet she's important too. We just need to train her in arcanima or who knows, maybe she'd be really good with an axe.
    Would had been really easy to accomplish for her to be involved in the SHB, just have the Exarch's spell be more of an AoE thing and poof, she gets isekai'd along with the WoL to the First (albeit without the one-way bit for obvious reasons...unless there was something inherent to the WoL's heritage that make shard hopping possible)

    Her skills in espionage and accounting would also be useful.

    Granted the opportunity had came and past. Mist also worth mentioning AFAIK that Krylie also didn't have much of a role beyond a cameo as a corpse (in Urianger's "vision")
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyssahtyn View Post
    Company. Company of Heroes.
    Order, Company... ehh, whatever.

    That was a long time ago in-game; also, too much Fire Emblem Heroes. In the wake of the civilization-ending plague I did manage to kick the habit though!
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