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    I don't wanna see full open world pvp unless the devs design a world per data centre strictly allowing it.

    However I would actually be fine with them adding designated dueling zones to each major city.

    -Limsa, Upper Decks, on top of the tower above the airship docks.
    -Gridania, Old Gridania below the leatherworkers guild
    -Ul'Dah, obvious coliseum is obvious
    -Ishgard, Temple Knights training grounds
    -Idyllshire, top left corner past the hard place
    -Kugane, Shimisegumi barracks just extend it a little
    -Doman Enclave, add it past the fields
    -Crystarium, wide open space between pendants and stairs to Crystal Exarch
    -Eulmore, Vauthry's throne area.

    Could add achievements like
    -win 100/200/300 times in an area 100/300 for titles like 100 having Ul'Dah's rising star and 300 having Ul'Dah's Finest, 200 for an area specific minion
    -win as <insert job here> 100/200/500 times, 100/500 having titles like 100 having <insert job here> duelist of the rose and 500 having Master <insert job here> , 200 having job specific minion based on the artwork of said job.
    -Could also have mount rewards for getting 200 wins in every area and one for 200 wins on every job, can be reskins of the very old ranked pvp mounts like a completely black Hoarhound or a yellow magitek conveyer.

    Just an idea I ran with XD
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    I don't wanna see full open world pvp unless the devs design a world per data centre strictly allowing it.

    However I would actually be fine with them adding designated dueling zones to each major city.

    -Limsa, Upper Decks, on top of the tower above the airship docks.
    -Gridania, Old Gridania below the leatherworkers guild
    -Ul'Dah, obvious coliseum is obvious
    -Ishgard, Temple Knights training grounds
    -Idyllshire, top left corner past the hard place
    -Kugane, Shimisegumi barracks just extend it a little
    -Doman Enclave, add it past the fields
    -Crystarium, wide open space between pendants and stairs to Crystal Exarch
    -Eulmore, Vauthry's throne area.

    Could add achievements like
    -win 100/200/300 times in an area 100/300 for titles like 100 having Ul'Dah's rising star and 300 having Ul'Dah's Finest, 200 for an area specific minion
    -win as <insert job here> 100/200/500 times, 100/500 having titles like 100 having <insert job here> duelist of the rose and 500 having Master <insert job here> , 200 having job specific minion based on the artwork of said job.
    -Could also have mount rewards for getting 200 wins in every area and one for 200 wins on every job, can be reskins of the very old ranked pvp mounts like a completely black Hoarhound or a yellow magitek conveyer.

    Just an idea I ran with XD
    Ngl I love these thoughts and would be totally excited to have them if PvP in this game didn't feel so clunky and awful
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    I don't wanna see full open world pvp unless the devs design a world per data centre strictly allowing it.

    However I would actually be fine with them adding designated dueling zones to each major city.
    -Ul'Dah, obvious coliseum is obvious
    Just an idea I ran with XD
    Not going to lie. When I first saw the Coliseum in Uldah during 1.0 I was hoping it would be like an open viewing arena to watch people (players) fight. You could place bets and such. Nope... but it would be cool to use it for just simple PVP matches

    As for Ishgard, they could actually make use of the Chocobo Proving ground for PvP.

    The game actually has a lot of unused spots in the cities that could be used for friendly PvP and such.
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    I would not mind as long as these limitation are in place.

    1. Option to automatically refuse duel invites

    2. Must happen outside of cities.

    3. Duel invites cannot be issued with in fates or with in 40 yrds of hunts.

    4. Cannot be issued to those who are in combat,crafting or gathering.

    5. Attacks of dueling players have no effects on any npc's in the present area. Npc's will not aggro onto dueling players..

    6. Dueling players cannot be targeted by other players. Players who are close to the duel will get a party like window showing the dueling players HP, buffs etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bsrking5 View Post
    Use / random or the other number generator. Faster and less complicated and it already in-game.
    It's not exciting enough, there should be some level of skill involved like a true duel. Most people don't know but Rock Paper Scissors is actually a deeply strategic game.
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    ESO proved that just having 'anywhere' duel pvp is a bad idea - their cities, merchant area's and tp places get spammed with duel's & duel request's. It's annoying, irritating and obtrusive. Fact is most ppl have to resort to addon's to auto-decline duel invites, as they get spammed like crazy by some ppl.

    However, I would 100% be behind SE adding specific duel-pvp arena's to every major city for those who do want to duel. This would make it easier for them to get duel's going, and give them more vareirty of scenery while dueling. Have the ability to send duel request's limited to the duel area's only, no other place - I got sick and tired of ppl trying to duel-spam me in ESO when question, gathering, etc and all the PM's insulting me and calling me coward, wuss, etc because I was auto-declining their duel spam (leading me to add them to my block list as well).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kamatsu View Post
    ESO proved that just having 'anywhere' duel pvp is a bad idea - their cities, merchant area's and tp places get spammed with duel's & duel request's. It's annoying, irritating and obtrusive. Fact is most ppl have to resort to addon's to auto-decline duel invites, as they get spammed like crazy by some ppl.

    However, I would 100% be behind SE adding specific duel-pvp arena's to every major city for those who do want to duel. This would make it easier for them to get duel's going, and give them more vareirty of scenery while dueling. Have the ability to send duel request's limited to the duel area's only, no other place - I got sick and tired of ppl trying to duel-spam me in ESO when question, gathering, etc and all the PM's insulting me and calling me coward, wuss, etc because I was auto-declining their duel spam (leading me to add them to my block list as well).
    ESO has an built-in auto-decline option (that was true since they added the duel function), no need for addon. Also on my megaserver (PS4/EU) duels mostly shifted to some common areas (most just outside the city gates next to the Undaunted enclave, some spots in the desert, etc). Sure there are always idiots who dueled next to wayshinres, but that was not common.

    I personally would rather see some more public duel spaces without the need to travel to the Wolves Den instead.
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    Would be cool if the existing PvP modes get more maps before we give nonexisting PvP modes 1000 tons more resources than the whole addon had yet.
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    It's a great idea provided it's completely optional. As in a setting that's automatically turned on at release and has to be manually disabled that fully blocks any PvP duel request. Also restrict it to outside major hubs and cities. Then by all means, go nuts with it.
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    I don't think it would work well in this game due to the hard separation between pve and pvp abilities, and the lack of gear scaling. WoW for example has some extra pvp talents/abilities, but for the most part classes function the same. A duel in the outside world in FF would mean taking away the pve toolkit you have out there and swapping it with the pvp one on the fly.

    My dancer has 93k hp. When I zone into a pvp area I have 15k hp as one example of the wonkiness at play here swapping between them.
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