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    I wonder if they will actually have us to go all the different shards. On one hand that is a lot of content to cover, and we have no idea how many more expansions are coming.

    Granted the nostalgic side of me really wants to go to explore a 14 version of Vandadiel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barraind View Post
    girl who we thought we killed after she tried to kill us but we're kind of cool with each other now
    Fordola?

    That's the only one I can think of that fits here, and that was a stretch since we never thought we killed her. Did I totally forget someone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malmstrom View Post
    Fordola?

    That's the only one I can think of that fits here, and that was a stretch since we never thought we killed her. Did I totally forget someone?
    Shh, I have to take minor liberties to make it flow right.


    I should do an explanation of the story so far the way I did the summary of Eureka one of these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    After played the Shadowbeinger and understanding The Sundering, is it possible that FF11 Vana’del is just one of the shard awaiting for us to explore in the future expansion? I mean Vana’del has identical races but with different racial name just like the first shard. This would service the purpose of remaking FF11 and provide a closer to the FF11. Do you thinks SE would pull this as one of the FF11 future expansion?
    They are in a different "Universe", but I did fancy the thought of a FFXI-FFXIV cross over, ala our characters can actually go there in the actual game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    The Future Expansion; What is the possibility?
    I suspect The Void will be involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    After played the Shadowbeinger and understanding The Sundering, is it possible that FF11 Vana’del is just one of the shard awaiting for us to explore in the future expansion? I mean Vana’del has identical races but with different racial name just like the first shard. This would service the purpose of remaking FF11 and provide a closer to the FF11. Do you thinks SE would pull this as one of the FF11 future expansion?
    There are many reasons this wouldn't work and as someone who has played XI for nearly 20 years and XIV since 2010, it would only be shallow fan service.

    But just to cover a few things. If you look at the first, the geology is quite similar to Eorzea, in fact its pretty much an exact replica, Quon is completely different from a continental perspective so some pretty devastating geological events that have never been spoken of in XI would have had to taken place in the 10,000 years since the Zilart fell for it to change so drastically. Not to mention they also have their own Hydaelyn and Zodiark in the forms of Altana and Promathia, the former being in peak power and the later of which we already dealt with. Then we also have alternative timelines to deal with, like the Abyssea timeline in which Promathia (or Zodiark) would have killed us and reigned supreme as Shinryu and the timeline that was created/erased via the Rhapsodies expansion. And that is only naming a few things that would be hard to explain. The Zilart and Kuluu, while being relatively similar as the Ascians, as also different enough for their respective lore not to overlap smoothly, if at all.

    Just using races as an example doesn't quite fit, there would need to me many more connections. Incorporating all of the Vana'diel lore, which is much much more intricate than the XIV lore, would be a complete mess and nearly impossible to do without retconning one of the games lores in it's entirety. If Yoshida wanted to just make Vana'diel a shard of Eorzea, not only would he have to be creative in a way that I feel is beyond his capabilities, but it would do a complete disservice to XI and the franchise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus View Post
    There are many reasons this wouldn't work and as someone who has played XI for nearly 20 years and XIV since 2010, it would only be shallow fan service.

    But just to cover a few things. If you look at the first, the geology is quite similar to Eorzea, in fact its pretty much an exact replica, Quon is completely different from a continental perspective so some pretty devastating geological events that have never been spoken of in XI would have had to taken place in the 10,000 years since the Zilart fell for it to change so drastically. Not to mention they also have their own Hydaelyn and Zodiark in the forms of Altana and Promathia, the former being in peak power and the later of which we already dealt with. Then we also have alternative timelines to deal with, like the Abyssea timeline in which Promathia (or Zodiark) would have killed us and reigned supreme as Shinryu and the timeline that was created/erased via the Rhapsodies expansion. And that is only naming a few things that would be hard to explain. The Zilart and Kuluu, while being relatively similar as the Ascians, as also different enough for their respective lore not to overlap smoothly, if at all.

    Just using races as an example doesn't quite fit, there would need to me many more connections. Incorporating all of the Vana'diel lore, which is much much more intricate than the XIV lore, would be a complete mess and nearly impossible to do without retconning one of the games lores in it's entirety. If Yoshida wanted to just make Vana'diel a shard of Eorzea, not only would he have to be creative in a way that I feel is beyond his capabilities, but it would do a complete disservice to XI and the franchise.
    This is a really great post.

    As much as I still love XI, I would hate to see them try to make it a shard as well. There is just no way they would be able to do XI's world justice, and like you stated, I imagine it would only feel like shallow fan service.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    This is a really great post.

    As much as I still love XI, I would hate to see them try to make it a shard as well. There is just no way they would be able to do XI's world justice, and like you stated, I imagine it would only feel like shallow fan service.
    I wonder how many of us are from FFXI thats still playing FFXIV. I can still count on one hand how many Ive met that are FFXI vets. Would it be worth it for so few people, especially when the full game is still going?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rasikko View Post
    I wonder how many of us are from FFXI thats still playing FFXIV. I can still count on one hand how many Ive met that are FFXI vets. Would it be worth it for so few people, especially when the full game is still going?
    i agree as an xi vet seeign that would on shard i don't know mix feels yeah it would nice tos ee old ocals again but whan't something newer be better?
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    Vana'diel could be worked in as one of the shards. We did have an event in the past that had a sort of crossover from ffxi.

    At the same time there is a lot of differences that would probably need to be retcon'd for people that played FFXI.

    FFXI is also quite huge in its own right in regards to content and just touching it on a single expansion would feel lackluster after the nostalgia from FFXI kicked in.

    As for races we wouldn't see any of the races added after 2.0. There would be no female roes, male miqo'to existed but were so rare the only one I recall seeing at all was a single NPC in the game.

    There were also beastmen tribes in FFXI that didn't exist in FFXIV like the Yagudo, Quadav, and Orcs.
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