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    Quote Originally Posted by MerlinCross View Post
    posts like this smell of bait.

    Why yes I might have fallen for it but just throught I'd point that out.
    Not really. I was just using my brevity to show how silly it is for people to feel some kind of way over my opinion. Particularly when its roughly 20% of people who play as DRK who are not happy with it.

    Kinda off topic too but I've gotten pretty good at not having to read everything to get the general point of what ever I am reading. Its kind of a skill I've developed in college as I'm sure many people have here as well.
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    "Brotherhood asked for no friendship, only loyalty. They stood back to back as the galaxy burned - always brothers, never friends; traitors together unto the last."

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    Quote Originally Posted by AC9Breaker View Post
    Not really. I was just using my brevity to show how silly it is for people to feel some kind of way over my opinion. Particularly when its roughly 20% of people who play as DRK who are not happy with it.

    Kinda off topic too but I've gotten pretty good at not having to read everything to get the general point of what ever I am reading. Its kind of a skill I've developed in college as I'm sure many people have here as well.
    It's way more than 20% saddly, i tend to visit a lot places like balance discord and other places and there is nothing but how good was old DRK and how boring and lame current gameplay is independent of how balanced current tanks are, hehe even they want the DA spam back if it was posible, and the PPL how play it it's mostly bcs is the theme job of the expansion and how powerful TBN is only, even my co-tank who is DRK don't hide it and claim he play bcs TBN it's just OP, only complety new ppl don't have any real complaing about DRK outside of how lame is fit 5 GCD on bloodweapon and delirium and thats bcs they don't know how much fun use to have the job.

    it's no a coincidence that DRK have one of the most gameplay complains so far this expansion, ppl just don't like current iteraction bcs balance is not everything.
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    Last edited by shao32; 05-08-2020 at 03:21 AM. Reason: wording and correction of the first part, sorry

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    Quote Originally Posted by shao32 View Post
    It's more than 20% saddly, i will say 70% at minimun, i tend to visit a lot places ...
    70% is not at all an accurate assumption, especially when that number is being based off of the percentage of people complaining in places that people tend to go to complain about just that sort of thing. It's biased data.
    Those who are happy with something are far less likely to raise their voices and make their opinion known on it, as opposed to those that are not happy about it. When people are not happy with something, they get all riled up and make their discontent known. When people are happy, they tend to remain quiet and content.
    Unsurprisingly, if you go to a venue where one of it's major purposes is to discuss and vent about potential problems, you are going to hear a large portion of the population there discussing problems. That is what they are there to do. You can't simply poll a single demographic and expect it to accurately reflect the greater population.

    It's like a little saying that I use, "Go hunting for witches and you are likely to find them", meaning that if you go in to something with a bias that you wish to prove right, you are leading yourself to only one conclusion, the one you started with.

    Honestly, arguing prospective percentages of who may or may not have a problem with the current DRK serves very little purpose and tends to be positioned in to too much of an "either/or" situation, where you either have to think the current DRK is perfectly fine as is, or that it is the bane of all existence and broke into your house and pooped in your shower.
    I guarantee you that most people are not of either of those positions but a mixture of the two and somewhere in between, many of which may not even have a real opinion either way but simply "heard that DRK has problems" and so are swayed by hearsay.

    Arguing such statistics based on anecdotal evidence does nothing to bolster any side of the argument and tends to just come across as a blunt attempt at trying to delegitimize opposition, whether arguing that only 20% or arguing that upwards of 70% dislike current DRK.

    Let's all try to stick to making good assessments and discussions as to what works and doesn't work with the current version of DRK and the other tanks.
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    Last edited by TouchandFeel; 05-08-2020 at 01:50 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TouchandFeel View Post
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    i didn't say it's real data at all but more i belive how is around based on my own experience on every DRK discussion i saw and not trying to be a legitimate poll or something like that, but you are right i shouln't use a percentage to counter AC9Breaker and would lead to a mindless discussion about who is right who is not ect ect, i'll try to avoid using that in the future thanks for the feedback.
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