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  1. #51
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    Morningstar1337's Avatar
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    Aurora Aura
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    Exodus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    I must admit I am torn on the whole thing. Onthe one hand I want rare minion and a 1 in 24 chance at getting one makes the Mhach and Ivalice minions pretty rare, therefore I'd like having a chance. But on the other hand I find the CT raids on roulette to be rather chill and helpful for leveling alts.
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  2. #52
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    LalafellDown's Avatar
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    Ultima Ultima
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    Tonberry
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadane View Post
    Why link to someone else reporting and not right to the source?
    http://ff14net.2chblog.jp/archives/56660779.html

    I can't imagine too many haven't already done it though...
    I cant read so im assuming they're bringing back the original UI? if so I cant wait

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  3. #53
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    AduroT's Avatar
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    Aduro Terrarum
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    Hyperion
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    Miner Lv 80
    So I got thru my first run of the first tower raid yesterday! Man that things a mess, and I thought the MSQ roulette was a brain dead Zerg rush. So when new people tell you they’re new and to tell them if they need to do something particular, and then not one of the twenty other people tells them where they need to stand, don’t whine when they don’t stand there and the raid wipes.

    Not only will crystal tower pop up more in roulette when it becomes required, but it’ll be more new players, people who’ve never done any alliance raids before, and you apparently can’t just ignore them like people do in the MSQ roulette because your success evidentially relies on you teaching them what they need to do.
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  4. #54
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    MelodyCrystel's Avatar
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    Anemone Blanc'rose
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AduroT View Post
    So when new people tell you they’re new and to tell them if they need to do something particular, and then not one of the twenty other people tells them where they need to stand, don’t whine when they don’t stand there and the raid wipes.
    Well, that's how social behaviour went down in this game, at least from my point of view on European servers.

    ->I was a new Heavensward-player in Summer 2015 (my short time in 1.0 with my first character doesn't really count) and at the time it generally seemed quite normal to explain stuff when somebody asked for advice. There were even plenty of people who willingly described things beforehand once they noticed somebody in the group wasn't used to the content.

    ->Over the years, those helpful persons seemingly shrinked in numbers, while the "Lol, old content isn't serious. Who cares for mistakes!"-attitude grew a lot.

    Means: This view on things turns all old content, not only Crystal-Tower-raid, into a roulette itself. Even when you explain stuff, you don't know if the person you want to help will follow the description. (I could tell some experiences, but that would be too much text.)

    ->Not to forget, people with several Maxlevel-Jobs apparently are these days no indicator for "I know my mechanics, so I can tell you what does what once I see the fight.", as they often haven't done optional content or claim they wouldn't have participated in old stuff for ages.
    Which you can understand as: They won't explain anything as they themselves are clueless.

    I for one explain stuff in my native language, German, and English as good as I can, but my great weakness - namely French-only players - are something I can't cover with my limited School-French plus Autotranslation.
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  5. #55
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    Rasikko's Avatar
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    Rasikko Rakitto
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    Lamia
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    Some old content I literally haven't done in many years because that's how many years it's been since it last showed up in DF. Yes, the pool of helpful people is shrinking, but there's another discouraging side to this as well: Helping others might actually piss them off because they wanna do it blind/figure it out.

    We need ESP to survive.

    Edit: I try non verbal communication to people when a mechanic is coming that is sure to kill them. I try jumping, I try being the FIRST PERSON TO MOVE TO A SAFE SPOT and then jumping...
    It doesn't always work.
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    Last edited by Rasikko; 04-23-2020 at 11:08 PM.

  6. #56
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    MelodyCrystel's Avatar
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    Anemone Blanc'rose
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I suggest to use general macros for that not-too-much-communication in case one really is afraid of people disliking some advice.

    At least the "<t>(which autotranslates a target's name) (Autotranslation)Attack<se.7>" which I'm using these days for Hard Modes has helped a lot at Ramuh and Levi plus isn't bound to a specific fight.
    A "Hide!" with some se.-noise may also help in several situations.

    And not to forget the legendary "You Comet Grraarrgh"-macro from old times, which is a must-have for LotA / this kind of battles.
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  7. #57
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    Fynlar's Avatar
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    Fynlar Eira
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    Hyperion
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    And not to forget the legendary "You Comet Grraarrgh"-macro from old times, which is a must-have for LotA / this kind of battles.
    I've got one of those macros. I always forget to use it though
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  8. #58
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    MsMisato's Avatar
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    Khloe Lafihna
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    Balmung
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    Pugilist Lv 64
    Quote Originally Posted by Rasikko View Post
    It was only a matter of time before they were gonna force this on people because of one NPC. Next they gonna say "Gotta beat the coils", though if they do that, consider me never completing the MSQ.
    for an 8 man dungeon/raid I am not going to lie, coils is fun though and the story for coils is worth it. running it at level can still be a challenge if no one really understands the mechanics of boss fights. Thats just me though.
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  9. #59
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    R'lileen Min'enoth
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    Cerberus
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    Thaumaturge Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by AduroT View Post
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    Unfortunatly, when people rushpullzerg, it is hard to take the time to explain :s
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    Altoholic
    La normalité n'est que la moyenne de nos folies individuelles.
    Normality is just an average. I'm the weird, you're the bizarre.

  10. #60
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    MelodyCrystel's Avatar
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    Anemone Blanc'rose
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    Shiva
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    White Mage Lv 100
    I (when not in the role of Maintank) have adapted to these early pulls with stubbornness. When I want to explain something, I do it even if that means some trouble on my end with dps-output and / or avoiding aoes.

    In the role of Maintank, I tell the group "One second, please." and write down the necessary advice(s).
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