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  1. #21
    Player
    sauc's Avatar
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    Saucise Benbow
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    Midgardsormr
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    You'll just get ressed anyway. As long as 1 tank and 1 healer lives in normal you can recover from anything.
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  2. #22
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    Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Dancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaiten_kenbu View Post
    The larger problem is how to explain mechanics to a group that may or may not understand the language you use.

    You can't possibly convey everything through the in-game translator.
    Yes, I hate them for not adding mob attacks to the auto-translation...

    Just yesterday i had a MM ex party where the GNB MT wanted to use metorfall for the first TB and the OT kept sharing it after every wipe bc he didnt really understand him xD
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  3. #23
    Player Mhaeric's Avatar
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    Mhaeric Llystrom
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Uh, I'm confused by the OP's example. The first move where Ramuh drops 2 lightning rods IS the learning mode for that move. Every time after that, the move either occurs simultaneously with other mechanics or occurs in a multiple of 4 with very little room to stand out of the AoE. That first one with just the two rods is there to teach you that the small rod equals the safety zone.

    All of the Eden bosses are like this, with each of the opening moves occurring solo or in simpler forms before being unleashed in tandem or with larger effects.
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    Last edited by Mhaeric; 05-05-2020 at 07:15 PM.

  4. #24
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    Kuroka's Avatar
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Dancer Lv 60
    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    All of the Eden bosses are like this, with each of the opening moves occurring solo or in simpler forms before being unleashed in tandem or with larger effects.
    Except for Flamewing mans' 270° cleave, which is telegraphed but still killed many of my groups xD
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  5. #25
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    Besame's Avatar
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    Calista Fallon
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 90
    The only dungeons I do are the ones to complete the MSQ. Hate em.
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  6. #26
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    Khalith Mateo
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    Mateus
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    Paladin Lv 90
    I can understand the frustrations of the OP, I've never liked mechanics where the outcome is completely binary (as in you either do it right or die) outside of Savage mode. Mistakes should be punishing and you should want to avoid them but I always preferred debuffs like damage down/vuln stacks where continued mistakes increase the likelihood of death/wipes rather than one mistake causing a death/wipe.

    I'm fine with it in savage mode as dying over and over again until you master everything is what progression raiding is all about but that is fight dependent for me. Mastering E8S to get my clear was rough, meanwhile I actually enjoyed mastering E4S.
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  7. #27
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    Tiger Undie
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    Odin
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    Fisher Lv 90
    is this a trollthread? One day 1 plenty of blind groups were able to kill his within 2 or max 3 pulls

    theres literally nothing difficult about it >.>
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