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    Quote Originally Posted by MrThinker View Post
    We are told that the Void is 'useless' on multiple occasions to the Ascian's plans. Well, once in game, other times through interviews with Koji Fox and Banri Oda. Even the whole "Flood of Darkness on the 13th causing an inevitable Flood of Light on the 1st" is pretty sketchy because the information comes from the Ascians themselves, who have proven to be liars in the past. Also the Void as it is has no aether, as we have been told by Koji himself, so until they backtrack on that statement, "It can't be fixed" because there is nothing left to fix it with.
    Has no aether? Well, that can't be true. There are beings there that do have aether, so there's aether in the form of living aether. There's also clouds, crystals, and the bridges of hard aether that you walk across during World of Darkness. Then the Roaring Atomos fight's battle text, "Atomos Prime is channeling aether to the Roaring Atomos!" It's more likely that they just haven't completed a storyboard for it yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    Has no aether? Well, that can't be true. There are beings there that do have aether, so there's aether in the form of living aether.
    Voidsent are alive in the same way Sin Eaters are, i.e. not at all, Vauthry being a twisted exception till he fully turns into Innocence.

    It's more likely that they just haven't completed a storyboard for it yet.
    They have completed it, since patch 3.5 when we learn of Unulkalhai's true origins

    Quote Originally Posted by Unulkalhai
    The star I failed to save is known to you now as “the void.”
    Though (Forename) knew not that I spoke of my homeland, I have explained to him before the cause of its ruin. A magick was devised to contain a defeated primal's might within a stone known as “auracite.” And the energies which bled from this imperfect vessel gradually corrupted the champions who wielded it.
    These heroes became slaves to an insatiable hunger for aether, eventually transforming into hideous fiends. And none who clung to the faint traces of Light were strong enough to oppose them.
    The demons next turned upon each other in a war which drained the land's aether in ever greater amounts, until one day the star was suddenly swallowed in a flood of Darkness. An entire world unmade in an instant.
    The voidsent you encounter here in this realm are the twisted remnants of once-mortal beings who gnaw on what motes of life force remain...
    Quote Originally Posted by Koji Fox
    The Dark void that we know is void of aether, but you still have the people and animals that were there and they’re aether-starved and trying to break through into our world and suck that aether back into their own.
    Yes, it is possible that they retcon this, but as far as we know, they have not, and until then I am staying with what we know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrThinker View Post
    Staying with what we know.
    Just cause something isn't alive by some arbitrary standard doesn't mean it's not using or does not possess aether. Sin Eaters show a lesser degree of sentience than Voidsent, most of whom speak and fulfill every mark for a living being.

    Yeah, I already know about Unulkalhai, as well as Cylva/Cyella. They keep adding to it, little by little. Pretty much confirming that, no, their story ideas for it are not yet complete or will continue to have additions. Also once-mortal implies they have become immortal, which seems to be the case since when you look at voidsent like the one from the RDM questline, they are around for hundreds and thousands of years. Heck, look at Diabolos and all of the Voidsent summoned by Mhach. Then remember that they all speak, have wills of their own, and have unique aether trails.

    As for what Koji said, well, look at the in game material. The World of Darkness may be aether starved, but there's certainly aether there. Right in the gameplay. In order to go in line with what Koji says, they'd have to remove all the crystals, remove Atomos Prime, and then come up with another energy based thing to attribute to why the Voidsent are so powerful still and how they wield magicks and the like. It'd make more sense to say, the lesser voidsent break into our world/want to come to our world for more aether, cause they can't beat or kill the other void beings to suckle on that aether. The Void has aether, and it's caught up in the beings there, and in the few crystals and landmasses that remain.
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