Thread: Predictions for 5.3?

Originally Posted by Turethir

Did he say someone would die? I don't recall this ever being confirmed; as far as I knew everything was still up in the air. I know there was an interview where he said that "no character was safe", but there was nothing in there which referred to 5.3 specifically, just the story as a whole.

That’s because in the sequel the useless dead T pose NPC will be resurrected and stalk the player from a far less intimidating distance, but still make the player feel intimidated.

Originally Posted by BasicBlake

Volume 2, there is a whole page of Koshu and Kugane's history. From it being one of the only places that wasn't touched by the Allagans to the clan wars that followed in the future. I don't have the book handy at the moment but you really just have to open the book to the Kugane section.

I could be remembering wrong, but it would be a weird portion of the book to bring up Meracydia, since the few pages are dedicated to Hingashi.

Volume 2 page 79
A Forgotten Past:

"Regrettably, there is little to no information concerning Hingashi prior to the Forth Astral Era. Extant Allagan records currently available for study make no mention of the islands either. Therefore, it must be assumed that while the Allagan Empire ruled the Three Great Continents at the height of its power, it's dominion did not extend to what would be later known as Hingashi. This presumption is further supported by the fact that, in the limited archaeological surveys of the island undertaken with the permission of the bakufu, not a single Allagan ruin has been discovered. That is not to say there was no evidence of Allagan influence whatsoever, though, as small artefacts such as jewelry and tombstones were unearthed.

The prevailing theory at this time is that the islands were either deserted or home to only a token population prior to the Forth Umbral Calamity, at which point refugees fleeing the collapse of the Empire came en masse. The Allagan trinkets found in Hingashi were brought by these new arrivals, who subsequently cast off the last vestiges of their fallen society and strove to create a new one free from the trappings of the past. Again, it should be stressed that this is a theory based on limited evidence, and it should not be taken as incontrovertible fact."

So basically Hingashi was never part of the Empire and became populated after the Forth Umbral Calamity. If you want to say Meracydians populated it your free to but a person saying people fled from Aldenard populated it instead is equally right, there is very little evidence for any prevailing theory, so long as it meets the requirements of the people who came to populate Hingashi had Allagen trinkets(More likely refugees from the Three Great Continents than the recently conquered Meracydians at the time but that is just a theory.)


I may be more supporting Sharlayan but I never ruled out Meracydia, as after ShB I just can't rule anything out, but I did also note that if we do go to Sharlayan it would have a split focus with the Garlean Empire, which is looking like it is coming to the forefront (HW continuously teased Aka Mhigo every patch with Yda and Papalymo, something ShB has been doing with Garlemald).

Originally Posted by Cilia

Ala Mhigo wasn't brought up until 3.4, when Yda and Papalymo stepped back onto the stage after Teledji Adeledji's antics branded all the Scions outlaws. 3.1 - 3.3 dealt exclusively with social unrest in Ishgard and defeating Nidhogg to reach the True End of the Dragonsong War.

Actually, Yda and Papalymo's story starts at the end of 3.1, although it's not really explicitly said, the player recognizes where they are and what they are talking about. 3.2 shows the Griffon. I don't remember the patch but there is also a similar scene where Papalymo drops that hint that Yda is in fact Lyse.
It's faint, but it is continuous. (And that's why people were a bit let down that there was so much more about Doma than Ala Mhigo, because Doma comes in only in 3.55 I think)

I'll agree that 4.X teasing was more going towards Garlemald than another Shard, even if we did strike the Empire somehow while taking down Emet Selch. But in the current state, the Garlean Empire could be kind of put aside for some time. There are civil wars, there is Werlyt and there is Bozja. And if I may, why would we need to go there? Our action is only defending Eorzea and liberating nations. But I don't see us pushing the offense in Illsabard.

They could just write some kind of ongoing diplomacy going on once we have significantly weakened the Empire's aggressive stance (which could be as early as the end of 5.X), like something like helping the Populares getting more power (as we have done a bit). Making that threat tamed to focus on something else.

Originally Posted by Mansion

Actually, Yda and Papalymo's story starts at the end of 3.1, although it's not really explicitly said, the player recognizes where they are and what they are talking about. 3.2 shows the Griffon. I don't remember the patch but there is also a similar scene where Papalymo drops that hint that Yda is in fact Lyse.
It's faint, but it is continuous. (And that's why people were a bit let down that there was so much more about Doma than Ala Mhigo, because Doma comes in only in 3.55 I think)

I'll agree that 4.X teasing was more going towards Garlemald than another Shard, even if we did strike the Empire somehow while taking down Emet Selch. But in the current state, the Garlean Empire could be kind of put aside for some time. There are civil wars, there is Werlyt and there is Bozja. And if I may, why would we need to go there? Our action is only defending Eorzea and liberating nations. But I don't see us pushing the offense in Illsabard.

They could just write some kind of ongoing diplomacy going on once we have significantly weakened the Empire's aggressive stance (which could be as early as the end of 5.X), like something like helping the Populares getting more power (as we have done a bit). Making that threat tamed to focus on something else.

Domans storyline came into play in 2.1. Then they're an active part of MSQ plotlines all the way up to the end of HW, where Gosetsu shows up. It wasn't really a matter of if we would go to Doma but when, and so it didn't need as much of a build up in HW.

I think people were really only disappointed with less Ala Mhigo, because most of the leveling and build up takes place in the Far Eastern zones, where the Ala Mhigan ones are the bread to good part of the sandwich. In fact that's a really apt comparison when looking at zone design. Ala Mhigo basically all desert and sandstone with a little garnish. Far East zones colorful and vibrant, stand out in a crowd sort of places.

Originally Posted by Vyrerus

Domans storyline came into play in 2.1. Then they're an active part of MSQ plotlines all the way up to the end of HW, where Gosetsu shows up. It wasn't really a matter of if we would go to Doma but when, and so it didn't need as much of a build up in HW.

I think people were really only disappointed with less Ala Mhigo, because most of the leveling and build up takes place in the Far Eastern zones, where the Ala Mhigan ones are the bread to good part of the sandwich. In fact that's a really apt comparison when looking at zone design. Ala Mhigo basically all desert and sandstone with a little garnish. Far East zones colorful and vibrant, stand out in a crowd sort of places.

I keep hoping they'll do something with the Ala Mhighan quarter similar to the rebuilds of Ishgard and the Doman Enclave. Or add Ala Mhigo city proper as a city state. Place is so bare.

Originally Posted by Fenral

Personally, I'm hoping that "brush up on Heavensward" actually means "remember all that unused space in Azys Lla?"

I'm hoping it means a return of the Red Bills, personally.

In replaying 5.2 on one of my characters, I had a thought that may be revealed once 5.3 comes out re: who we really are. I'll get my tin foil on now, because this is just wild, rampant theories that may or may not be correct or have merit.

We know that we were friends with the Convocation, and that we are most likely the Defector, bringing the Convocation count from 14 to 13. In the scenes out of Anamnesis Anyder, Venat's group is also 13, and if we had chosen to side with them, we would be 14 there. There's always the possibility that there were more people who sided with Venat in their decision to summon a counter to Zodiark and were in their own "Convocation" of sorts, but I find it interesting that there's 13 present in that scene.

We also know that Elidibus is just a title of "emissary" and that the original decided to become Zodiark's heart, and the one we see now is just their successor in that job... but what if there were more than one? What if we were in that same vocation before we became the WoL? We ended up becoming Hydaelyn's Chosen™ because of starshowers and Her talking to us etc but I'm fairly certain Hydaelyn knew who we were when She decided to make us the WoL, most likely how Lahabrea and all them knew who we were. We're already kind of an "emissary", an ambassador, as Chai-Nuzz balks at the fact that we brought "just about everyone in bally Norvrandt" to help before we climb up Mt. Gulg.

We're Elidibus. Or one of them. An Elidibus that ended up being an emissary for Hydaelyn as opposed to Zodiark, bringing people together as an ambassador for Hydaelyn - for Venat. For Minfilia (if my own speculation on Venat's "I will retain the form of my choosing" and how Minfilia is awfully close to Hydaelyn to be chosen by her to be her own voice is correct.... HMMMM.) Our friends.

God why isn't it the 11th already so I can punch Elidibus out of my ghost boyfriend already, see how correct/wildly wrong I am and save the rest of my friends augh.