Level 80 DRG Optimal Stat Numbers

[Renkei]

That is my point exactly, You aren't interested in helping the OP you are interested in attacking me for having an unpopular opinion.

No i suggested you where an ALT account and a member of that community i never said of the owner, thanks for the Freudian slip though!
The gain isn't directly monetary but it is is clearly socially beneficial to your discord community and possibly even monetary if data is stored on third party websites with advertising.

Your mythologies aren't posted anywhere either, That mean's at least I'd save them the trouble of having to download discord and privately interact with your community. That clearly shows you are more interested in advertising then providing the information, regardless even if the content is done by who you consider mentors it doesn't make the content owned by the community.

The Weight Calculation was done by spamming a second hitting ability with 100 potency of damage with a Weathered Spear naked at level 80 then logging the output of over 1,000 hits (auto attacks not included except for SKS), Using known gear for bonuses and subtracting strength bonus to meet higher break points.

This is the calculation i used for figuring out the base points : ((Potency/100)*(WD+((BDET*JDMOD/1000),0))*((AP/APDIV+(1-BDET/APDIV)),2))(1+(DET-BDET)/DETDIV,4),3),1))

I discovered that Critical Damage bonus has break points but Critical Rating doesn't, or it was to hard to observe due to the randomness of damage.

This is how i came to the conclusion that critical doesn't start out scaling at until mid 2226 compared to SKS 1,751, 3050 DIR, 1686 DET where it each starts to fall off, at 2226 Critical seems to start being worth more and more, but still has the down side of effecting critical damage bonus., I tried testing Critical Damage bonus modifiers break points in more depth but couldn't get consistent data fast enough as it'll require a larger pool of data. it cost me a ton of Materia testing this thankfully i had lots of gear sets from older expansions available to get accurate measurements but i am sure i made some errors.

Applying the known break points to the rotation is something i am working on actively it's just to be taken for a grain of salt and not literally all math is just an estimate anyways.

[Nemekh]

Imagine estimating when the equations are all known from far greater samples than "over 1000" and on top of that listing stat weights. What are we, pre TJ era Heavensward relying on Neetsha-Dervy blogs and archaic handwavey ariyala weights? We've moved on from over 4 years ago. Please get with the times.

[Nemekh]

OP, the stat priorities have been listed, however, don't try to aim for specific arbitrary values. Build towards BiS lists as best you can - those have been tested thoroughly and run through solid equations. Then for the pieces you aren't able to obtain you can still follow the priority and be good enough. Just be mindful of target GCDs for your job to make the rotation sane enough.

Regarding Dragonsight if you can manually resolve tether seamlessly enough on a given party member that's a better case, but you can have macros for specific party slots just to reduce the number of different inputs as a compromise.

[CatMilk]

For anyone who doesn't want to join the creepy cult of Balance, you can just go on their discord and take all the information.
I find it weird how many people insist you *must* join this discord.
You don't need to join anything and you can safely ignore anyone saying "join the balance discord" because you can just go there and take all the available information and then post it on Reddit or whatever you like. Please in the future consider ignoring these strange cult members. They come out of the woodwork to defend it for some weird reason.

The biggest issue is 99% of people just want an answer they don't want to join your weird contingency of "theorycrafters". It's insane how often I see "join balance" as an "Answer" to a question.

[CatMilk]

the only useful response in this entire thread.

[Navnav]

For anyone who doesn't want to join the creepy cult of Balance, you can just go on their discord and take all the information.
I find it weird how many people insist you *must* join this discord.
You don't need to join anything and you can safely ignore anyone saying "join the balance discord" because you can just go there and take all the available information and then post it on Reddit or whatever you like. Please in the future consider ignoring these strange cult members. They come out of the woodwork to defend it for some weird reason.

The biggest issue is 99% of people just want an answer they don't want to join your weird contingency of "theorycrafters". It's insane how often I see "join balance" as an "Answer" to a question.

Quoted for truth!!!
I really don't understand why people insist you visit a discord just to get some basic info. I tried it once after never using discord and nothing made any sense, just overly convoluted crap for an answer that could be written in a sentence. Mind boggling how detailed some players go into this stuff when essentially it doesn't matter.

[Drkdays]

Stack direct hit = win









Disclaimer : I have no idea if it's the best stat, i just presume some boss drg player will come along and refute me by giving the desired numbers for DH, crit, det, etc for an ilv around 530.

[Beddict]

Quoted for truth!!!
I really don't understand why people insist you visit a discord just to get some basic info. I tried it once after never using discord and nothing made any sense, just overly convoluted crap for an answer that could be written in a sentence. Mind boggling how detailed some players go into this stuff when essentially it doesn't matter.

Yeah, the XIV community is really, really bad at sitting down and working together to create a website with a proper knowledge base. Salted XIV exists, but it's mostly the guides from The Balance, and there's no real standard for the guides, or a template that all guides follow to keep things organized. Hell, some of the guides just link to Google Docs, the same ones you'll find on The Balance anyways. Also surprise, Salted XIV is shutting down once Endwalker drops so there goes that resource.

It's baffling that a messaging app like Discord is the go to for XIV. Google The Balance, find out that the first link (http://www.thebalanceffxiv.com/) is a blank page and you really want the second link which is simply a link to the Discord, agree to the rules on The Balance Discord, go to the role selection channel you want, react to the Job you want information on with a stupid emoji so a bot can assign you the role, go to the role channel that you now have access to, and then...scroll through the messages to find the Google Doc that's listed in the Discord. Is that really the best solution we got for new players looking for information? At least Casters have a sane resource in Akh Morning. If I Google "ffxiv black mage guide" the first link is to Akh Morning, and all three Caster Job guides are laid out the same way, and as an added bonus they cover things The Balance doesn't care about at all, like leveling. Seriously, it's a fantastic site with fantastic guides and it should be the standard for FFXIV but nah, "join The Balance" is the typical answer.

IcyVeins, a website known for basically nothing but WoW guides, is branching into FFXIV. Their quality isn't the greatest from what I've heard, but at least their guides will actually be easy to find so who knows, maybe seeing a WoW website create easy to access and read guides will spur the XIV community to stop using a messaging app that requires people to jump through a bunch of hoops to get information.