Holy Matrimony~

[Rokien]

I love how you throw same sex marriage in with pedophilia Rick Santorum. (i guess i'm naming people after right wing political figures today) Unfortunately your right, but for the wrong reasons.

Just... No marriage please. Rings with signatures are fine enough.

Maaan Obama has it in the bag, the GolP shot themselves in the foot when it came to women!

I would like them to come up with something new, maybe not a wedding but something different, that would be cool~

[Tacotaru]

If adding player "marriages" to be same-sex is going to cause a tidal wave of sand to fill one's nether regions, just turn the system from "player marriages" into "player unions"; we don't really need to hang this system up due to the semantics argument people feel the need to make IRL. I know plenty of people who chose characters of the opposite sex when they play games/MMOs, and if they want to add the system at all, open it up for all.

I don't understand why people feel the need to dig the topic twenty layers deep with BS (polygamy, pets, pedos; where is there equal rights!?!?) just to be obnoxious and exclusionary. Player unions have been around forever, they don't need to reinvent the wheel here.

It IS a terrible thing that 50 year olds think its ok to marry 10 year olds however it is not a terrible counterpoint.... as it is real. At what point are the boundaries set an acceptable form of discrimination?

It is a terrible counter point. People who think LGBT marriage is comparable to pedophilia and bestiality are obscenely stupid. That being said, it's not like anyone is going to change any minds on the internet, let alone a FF forum, so it's irrelevant to go much further into this conversation anyway. They should probably just respond to this thread and/or immediately lock it to save themselves the trouble down the road.

[Jynx]

Yeah I wouldn't mind Unions either just give people their options.

however it is not a terrible counterpoint.... as it is real.

Pedos? Really It's not a valid argument point. I may as well get upset that the game wouldn't let me marry my Haubergeon, your pulling at straws to play devils advocate at a issue that nobody would bring up.

Do you think anyone is really going to say "Man they let same sex couples marry ingame...what about my highly illegal fetish with minors?" If they do...well I'm sure hillarity and police would soon arrive. Don't play a idiotic card like that in a serious discussion. Hell the people whining about the "Holy sanctity of mariage" (Lulz) have a better argument than you do.

It's a terrible way to even try and counterpoint this argument. So stop trying.

[Morticous]

Yeah I wouldn't mind Unions either just give people their options.



Pedos? Really It's not a valid argument point. I may as well get upset that the game wouldn't let me marry my Haubergeon, your pulling at straws to play devils advocate at a issue that nobody would bring up.

Do you think anyone is really going to say "Man they let same sex couples marry ingame...what about my highly illegal fetish with minors?" If they do...well I'm sure hillarity and police would soon arrive. Don't play a idiotic card like that in a serious discussion. Hell the people whining about the "Holy sanctity of mariage" (Lulz) have a better argument than you do.

It's a terrible way to even try and counterpoint this argument. So stop trying.

Ok except for the fact that 10 year olds and 50 year olds posing as 10 year olds both play this game? This game as well as any other MMO of any sort has kids, adults, and weirdos in both catigories. Out of all the badass things they could/should add.. this one thing that is worthless and brings soo much negativity is somthing you feel so strongly for? Its garbage content, potentialy dangerous and offensive to at least two very large parties. This game should be about beastiarys or adding/ abolishing anima, building LS boats for battle, but not wasting my monthly sub money and SEs resources on stupid fluff content of the such and until there is 1million different things to do in game i will NEVER be for this one.

I think i got what i wanted to say across and now will retire from posting in this silly post.

[Dragon]

Ok except for the fact that 10 year olds and 50 year olds posing as 10 year olds both play this game?

I'm sorry, what?

No, seriously. Kids shouldn't even be playing without parental permission (and for those that do, well they're no one else's responsibility, period).

[Denmo]

I'm kinda surprised and appalled at the same time that we're even having this debate in the FFXIV General Discussion Forum.


Stay classy, people.

[Jynx]

I'm kinda surprised and appalled at the same time that we're even having this debate in the FFXIV General Discussion Forum.

I'm sorry, why would this be?

It's a valid discussion, and I see no reason that we can't discuss it here as it pertains to the game.

[Morticous]

I'm sorry, what?

No, seriously. Kids shouldn't even be playing without parental permission (and for those that do, well they're no one else's responsibility, period).

As a society we are all responsible for our children. Permission to play or not does not deem them left to their own judgment.

I just want to clear somthing up, my example was not to derail the subject. I simply think this sort of content is highly controversial and a waste of my monthly sub fee.

[Dragon]

As a society we are all responsible for our children. Permission to play or not does not deem them left to their own judgment.

Wrong. I am no more responsible for your children than you are of mine; if for instance, you want to hook your kids up to drugs, it simply is not my responsibility nor my place to care. Kids are only the responsibility of their own family and those whom are paid to handle them.

[Kinseykinz]

Ok except for the fact that 10 year olds and 50 year olds posing as 10 year olds both play this game? This game as well as any other MMO of any sort has kids, adults, and weirdos in both catigories. Out of all the badass things they could/should add.. this one thing that is worthless and brings soo much negativity is somthing you feel so strongly for? Its garbage content, potentialy dangerous and offensive to at least two very large parties. This game should be about beastiarys or adding/ abolishing anima, building LS boats for battle, but not wasting my monthly sub money and SEs resources on stupid fluff content of the such and until there is 1million different things to do in game i will NEVER be for this one.

I think i got what i wanted to say across and now will retire from posting in this silly post.

...except 'getting married' in a video game isn't rl. Therefore is a 13 year old (that's the youngest age allowed to play) DID 'marry' a 50 year old, well, nothing illegal is happening...and honestly, probably nothing overly perverted either.

You are taking this WAY too far. IN GAME IS PRETEND PEOPLE....it's no different than when we were little kids playing house...just cause I 'married' the neighbor boy when I was 5 playing house, does not mean we were 1. in fact married, 2. supporting child brides, or 3. having sex at the tender age of 5. Chill people.

As to the 'I think this is stupid content...' arguement. No one is asking/forcing you to do it. No one is even expecting it to happen pre-2.0. It's just a nice idea to add into game for the people who wish to use it when the DEV team has the time to add it in. (Btw, the same team that works on seasonal events would more than likely be the group inventing this if it did happen...not your precious battle/dungeon DEV team, so your 'Epic Battles' and new content on that front wouldn't be affected.) So basically, while you don't have to support it, you also won't be affected by it in game if it comes to pass.