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    PyurBlue's Avatar
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    Saphir Amariyo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva View Post
    I'd say, on top of current requirements they should put *clear a list of duties n-times*, and with new dungeons/trials/raids your crown would just disappear and you would have to unlock it for those new instances, but keep it for those in which you already met the requirements
    Clearing duties more than once doesn't have anything to do with giving basic advice though. Just like being new to a duty doesn't mean you can't help with rotations or coming up with a strategy to clear if one is needed. The last few times I gave advice in dungeons it was correcting other player's rotations, I would have done exactly the same thing if the duty being run was completely new. Mentoring doesn't need complex rules, it just needs to put willing mentors in contact with sprouts looking for help.
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    My suggestions on improving the system:

    1) Make mentor roulette available to everyone and name it random roulette. The purpose is to improve queue times.

    2) Make the mentor crown something which is applied for 24 hours when another person awards it to you. Maybe turn it into a gold star or something? Everyone should only be able to award a star once per player, so that those who help a different player every day would stand out. You should be able to give these in dungeons to encourage people to explain fights.

    3) Keep the NN a meeting place for new players and players who have experience. Add more mentor categories (pvp, open world) one can pursue to unlock the chat, and make crafting requirements harder.

    Edit. Basically the three aspects of being a mentor (roulette, icon, NN) need to be treated as separate systems with separate requirements.
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    Last edited by Reinha; 04-29-2020 at 10:46 PM.
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    Saoirse Almasy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinha View Post
    My suggestions on improving the system:

    1) Make mentor roulette available to everyone and name it random roulette. The purpose is to improve queue times.
    I actually really love that suggestion. Perhaps putting a requirement such as having one of each job type up (one dps, one healer and one tank) in order to do so, but I think it would be a nicer thing, since yes, it is there to improve queue times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PyurBlue View Post
    Clearing duties more than once doesn't have anything to do with giving basic advice though. Just like being new to a duty doesn't mean you can't help with rotations or coming up with a strategy to clear if one is needed. The last few times I gave advice in dungeons it was correcting other player's rotations, I would have done exactly the same thing if the duty being run was completely new. Mentoring doesn't need complex rules, it just needs to put willing mentors in contact with sprouts looking for help.
    You don't need a crown to help people in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miracle_Diva View Post
    You don't need a crown to help people in the first place.
    That's true, but your suggestion has to be coded into the game. What is the return on investment?

    And while you don't need a crown to help people, you do need one to freely enter the NN to find people wanting help. If you really want to help people in FF14 you're probably going to seek the crown.
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    Rasikko Rakitto
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    The NN being a problem in itself with mentors clashing with each other.

    D00d Im the MASTER MENTOR all should only listen me a god.
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    Derio Uzumaki
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    Really just access to NN. Its a large overworld channel. In fact the only overworld channel outside of your regular linkshells or FC chat.
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    The better solution is to let GMs moderate the Novice Network IMO.
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