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    Makeda's Avatar
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    5.25 Relic weapons? Get them or pass on them?

    I got the DRk weapon, and despite it having 5 materia slots the equipment picker tells me to toss that thing back in the water and keep my Ruby Ex weapon.

    Would folks agree with that or not?

    Those tank weapons have a whole lot of tenacity on them...

    Should I just give the rest of them a pass? Toss the DRk one into my glamour chest (and yet not glam to it because I'm not into shovels...)?

    How do they compare to the Ruby weapons?
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    Striving for perfection is the path to one's downfall. 'Tis the paradox of the immaculate carrot. | Jah Bless. One God, One Aim, and One Destiny - Marcus Garvey.
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    Get what you want. The cost is low.

    They're, at worst, just a tad weaker than Ruby.

    Looking at stat calculations, it looks like you'll actually swing about .3% higher on average when it's all said and done, but your "Best" runs are going to be worse since those tend to be based on where your DHits land.

    Edit: Apparently not all tank weapons are det/ten. The above was assuming Det/Ten.
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    Last edited by Kabooa; 04-11-2020 at 03:28 AM.

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    the drk relic is better than ruby, this is not up for debate. Without materia, sure, the ruby weapon's crit and det beat out a stock combination of woeborn's ten and crit, but the fact you can meld 300 more substats of your choice, whether that be all det or a combination of det and crit, or d.hit if that's your thing, then there's no comparison especially when you consider that the substats don't really differ all that much in how strong they are.

    Tenacity doesn't make a weapon awful, it's just a little worse off than det. Meld that stuff on, and it's better.
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    at large run they would be usefull as long they let us change the subs stats and hopefully not in a random way like in SB, so it's nice to have it for now even if they are complety useless right now just for the future steps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hierro View Post
    the drk relic is better than ruby, this is not up for debate.
    I'm lost as to why the game itself think the DRK Relic weapon is worse than the Ruby one...

    I've got them both full of materia and it still says to use the Ruby one.

    I've got Ruby on all 4 tanks... and this has me wondering if I should just not get the relics for the rest of them.
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    Until the philosophy which holds one race superior and another inferior is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned, everywhere is war - Ras Tafari.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makeda View Post
    I'm lost as to why the game itself think the DRK Relic weapon is worse than the Ruby one...

    I've got them both full of materia and it still says to use the Ruby one.

    I've got Ruby on all 4 tanks... and this has me wondering if I should just not get the relics for the rest of them.
    I couldn't tell you why, but my guess it's just grabbing an item based on ilvl and that's just the first choice to come to mind. That aside, if you're cool with a potentially ungodly grind to complete all your relics for your four tanks, go for it bruh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hierro View Post
    I couldn't tell you why, but my guess it's just grabbing an item based on ilvl and that's just the first choice to come to mind. That aside, if you're cool with a potentially ungodly grind to complete all your relics for your four tanks, go for it bruh.
    Yeah I doubt I'll be doing that...
    I never did the relic quests in past expansions but then in the past I was mainly tanking in WoW and an extreme casual here...
    I may have an account from 2013, but this is actually the first tier I've ever done savage, and maybe the second where I've done any Ex-fights... (and I'm stuck as OT on E5S, so spend half my time out of melee range kiting a bird... /offtopic-rant)


    Just wondering now, in the current tier of things - as I'm actually more of a 'noob' to endgame than my account date would let on...

    But that makes sense that it's just checking iLevel.
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    Striving for perfection is the path to one's downfall. 'Tis the paradox of the immaculate carrot. | Jah Bless. One God, One Aim, and One Destiny - Marcus Garvey.
    Until the philosophy which holds one race superior and another inferior is finally and permanently discredited and abandoned, everywhere is war - Ras Tafari.

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    You can get the relic weapon for glamour, Let's see how the weapons will turn out. If you looking for stats wise so far that I know of the WAR relic axe is worth getting You can put two CRTs and Three DET
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    Oak Tree Paladin Kristian Fortnox

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    They're super easy to get might as well just snag them to save you a little time later if you change your mind. I've already got several of the ones for the battle classes and I just finished getting all of the DoH/DoL ones today.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makeda View Post
    I'm lost as to why the game itself think the DRK Relic weapon is worse than the Ruby one...

    I've got them both full of materia and it still says to use the Ruby one.

    I've got Ruby on all 4 tanks... and this has me wondering if I should just not get the relics for the rest of them.
    I think the game values the Crititical Hit and Determination over Determination and Tenacity or even Tenacity and Skill Speed, but I think the game just values Critical Hit more than any other stat in the game... which means they need to buff tenacity and skill speed to be just as good as determination... but this is just guesswork at this point...
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