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    Even it was the North American forums, ran by a North American located in North America he wouldn't have First Amendment protection here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tacotaru View Post
    Even it was the North American forums, ran by a North American located in North America he wouldn't have First Amendment protection here.

    ^^^^^^this
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    Best way I think:

    1-10
    • Do leves, really it just be the fastest.

    10-20+
    • Go to Bloodshore and run to 38, 15. It is a bit of land with lots of Jellies, about 10. A PL can grab them all and aoe them very easily. Gladiator "Flash" works charms here.

    20-38
    • Go to "Copperbell" mines, Run to the stairs at 7,4 (which is a slope lol) and run down, follow this path and stick to the right, eventually you'll come to a T junction, to the right there is a path to a circle room, this path has 12 Ants on very close to each other, perfect EXP to 38. On the map this is 8,5 and 8,6.

    38-45
    • Copperbell mines again, you will need a good BLM to do this, having a tank also helps but not everyone can, on the top floor go to 6,3 here you have a room full of pikemen which you can run in the room to claim, then stand outside the door and they will just throw rocks at you. Easy kills, Leechers careful of bomb aggro and MPKing

    45-50
    • Go back to leves or do a party, there is no major way to PL here as you're about the same level lol much faster in a strong hold PT, plus you can spend those 5 levels learning your class as that is all you need to know what your skills do! (1 level is enough if you have a thing called common sense tho!)

    There are lots of other places, 20-30 you can do on Diremites near Nophica Wells, you could also do 20-30 in Toto Rak on Skeletons and Gnats, but my suggestion is the way I did it.

    Following the path above you can get 1-50 in about 2 days, 20-25 hours in total including slacking, eating, wcing, and not being prompt. The EXP Party might be slowest just trying to get a PT, but if you have friends not so bad.
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    Last edited by viion; 04-06-2012 at 03:12 AM.

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    I don't think anyone said laws don't apply, we said Freedom of Speech isn't applicable; of course there are things that you can say/do on the internet that are punishable by law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tacotaru View Post
    I don't think anyone said laws don't apply, we said Freedom of Speech isn't applicable; of course there are things that you can say/do on the internet that are punishable by law.
    Freedom of speech was used more conceptually than legally in this instance....

    Someone said The are free to express their opinions... and in that regard, I can't stop them from doing so... but no one is trying to stop them from expressing opinions... If anything, people feel more upset about me expressing mine...
    Which is pretty hypocritical...
    I am more than ok with anyone stating their opinion. If you love powerleveling.. fine... say it... I'm not going to harbor any ill feelings toward you... people have opinions
    I HATE Minecraft but people tend to like it... It doesn't bother me...
    But if there was a conversation where I was asked my opinion on Minecraft... I'd say I think its garbage... and thats fine... Just as you are free to say whatever you like.. so is everyone else

    I just point out that this thread is the pre-hand holding that leads to the handholding (that is PL)....
    This thread is Power-Levelception

    For people who don't see a problem with it... Would it be wrong to buy an account that is all 50's?
    If you say yes... what is the difference?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rydin View Post
    If you say yes... what is the difference?
    One involves a monetary transaction and probably violates the TOS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abesai View Post
    One involves a monetary transaction and probably violates the TOS.
    Why the hell did you post in this thread?
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    Freedom of speech only applies if the government tries to oppress your speech. That's not applicable in this case.

    I want this thread to die because it's been derailed in so many ways, that it no longer serves a purpose.

    Though, I would like to reply to some people's assumptions about me, the "lazy" topic creator. Three of the five classes I have at 50 got there with no power leveling and before the power leveling debacle. I have not power leveled after the mob distribution changes by Yoshi-P, hence why I no longer knew good locations for power leveling.

    As for the lack of skill of people who power level a class.... I don't know if that applies to me. This isn't my first mmo. Though I love FFXIV, I don't think it's the most complicated. In fact, there is less reactive based playing as other games (which is good imo). I've tanked, healed and dps'd Darkhold. Some of them speed runs. I have Dps'ed and Healed for Ifrit, before the introduction of jobs.

    I asked a simple question about power leveling locations, and I got opinions about my "worth" as a player. To each his own. I don't take my online games as seriously as others, but it's your right nonetheless.
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    Fair enough, and I personally have no qualms with your opinion one way or the other, it's just a pet peeve of mine when people misconstrue that the First Amendment applies to anything and everything they want it to; obviously you didn't mean this but rather the context was lost on the internet.

    Power leveling is fine as it is now in my opinion, because this game is a very delicate transitional phase. People resubbing to the game now are more than likely not fresh newbies, but rather people who had tried it before, stopped, and then decided to come back. Those people don't want to be held back for a month leveling ONE class/job just to participate in an event that may or may not be the flavor of the month class/job next patch. Not to mention they probably won't be able to find parties to level in the first place.

    In the long term? Yes, I think power leveling needs to be limited to what it was in XI, and if not, I believe it will do to midgame content what Abyssea did to XI's midgame content. In XI's case, the game had been out for nine years and therefore it wasn't an issue; if you hadn't played it by then, chances are you weren't going to. In a game that's trying to reinvent itself fresh, you can't have the middle of your game abandoned because people can PL every class in the game to 50 in a couple of days.
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    I said in my post that I also don't necessarily care if you get PLd or not; my disclaimer was for the simple fact that what I wrote was my general opinion on how I play the game. It wasn't anything on my First Amendment rights (dunno how that came up) or on you as a person/gamer. Some of the comments in my post were also not directed at the OP, though I will stand by my point of if you like the job, leveling it can be just as fun as end-game.

    Just wanted to make that clear. Anywho, now that I know the predicament as to why you don't know the places (Saying "I have not power leveled after the mob distribution changes by Yoshi-P, hence why I no longer knew good locations for power leveling." would have been good to know; people take what you say in whatever context they want. I admit some of the nastier posts may have skewed my own.), I would say....Cactuars @ Drybone for up to ~25, The two rooms in Mun-Tay (near the north entrance, don't know exact coords) of gnats and skeles for 30-35, then that skele room in Copperbell for 35-40. There's other spots for 35-45, but those are LS secrets I'm afraid :c
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