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  1. #71
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    Lux_Rayna's Avatar
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    Vynce Walker
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    Sargatanas
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    Miner Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Ruisu View Post
    I think PLing is perfectly fine. Most people can't really get a feel for their job without experience in endgame anyways. However, I'm glad they made it so that it's more tedious to PL. All I ever really do is help friend PL annoying classes for their jobs, like GLA and CNJ. That 1-20 grind is awful anyways.
    QFT

    40-50 is plenty of time to figure out your job. Even then, a few ls runs will get you up to speed in a hurry. Contrary to popular belief 1-40 doesn't teach you shit about your job. You dont even get the full combos youll be using regularly til like 35+. Plus soloing to 40 does not teach you how to work in a party anyway. All in all the arguments against the whole PL thing are pretty weak...FFXIV is not one of those games that requires a lot in terms of "learning a class". You have to learn how to operate in dungeons and parties, but you don't learn that until you actually do dungeons or primals. No amount of grinding will prepare you for Ifrit/Moogle/AV/CC.

    As for PL locations use mooglebox.
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  2. #72
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    Nixius's Avatar
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    Riyuna Nixilus
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    Shiva
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Estellios View Post
    Nophica's wells, Humblehearth, and Cedarwood all have several camps each of enemies in the low-mid thirties. Check out mooglebox's camp location tool.
    +1 Thanks for the link
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  3. #73
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    Zezlar's Avatar
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    Athalia Hartfell
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    Excalibur
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    Lancer Lv 85
    Quote Originally Posted by Ruisu View Post
    I think PLing is perfectly fine. Most people can't really get a feel for their job without experience in endgame anyways. However, I'm glad they made it so that it's more tedious to PL. All I ever really do is help friend PL annoying classes for their jobs, like GLA and CNJ. That 1-20 grind is awful anyways.
    Inviting someone to a PT, then gathering all the mobs and then getting kicked out is so tough.
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  4. #74
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    Wolfie Wu
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    Leviathan
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    Pugilist Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Zezlar View Post
    Inviting someone to a PT, then gathering all the mobs and then getting kicked out is so tough.
    My name is Zezlar, and I do not know the definition of tedium.

    http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/tedium
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  5. #75
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    Edgecrusher's Avatar
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    Galvadan Edgecrusher
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    Balmung
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    Conjurer Lv 60
    Okay...while i'm not out with the pitchforks and the torches trying to raze the frankenstien's monster that is this game's PL system, i'm not going to give my man a road map on how to be extra lazy, no offence. I mean in all honesty with the way exp gains are, if you really just had people in your lvl range and a good 2.5 hours a night...you can make it from 25 ((taking in that you leveled 1-25 by yourself or however)) to 50 in 7-9 days max, seeing as how it was taking most of us halfway to the damned end of time to do that, i'd really not piss and moan.

    I'm not even saying it has to be god awfully grueling, or excruciatingly long, but when you herp-derp your backside in here asking a question like that what did you THINK was going to happen? Some of us veiw it as a blatent insult that we DID put in all that time, just to see in an ifrit or moogle pt "hey i got all 50's i only been playing a week, how do i tank/heal/dps this? lol". I and many like me think the damned leveling on this game is broken as hell recently and while i haven't lashed out, i don't endorse such.

    I could have had my butcher's crown ages ago, if we really brass tack it, but i take my time, not because i'm not playing, but because i'd rather go into a party at least halfway knowing what i'm doing before i piss off a group of people on my server with i'd like to play again with, or not waste all that precious ifrit DM (because that's ALL that S.O.B gives out lately) or dozens of repairs, because i blew through everything to get there, then i got there and didn't have a clue.

    You can learn combo sequences, fix bars accordingly, alot of minor tweaking really, that can only come from working in pt, or frankly some solo, that you don't get to learn while you sit afk and make a friend do your heavy lifting for you, but i'll simply tip my hat to you sir, bid you a good day, and leave it at that.
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  6. #76
    Player Xakery's Avatar
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    Xakery Jones
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    Gilgamesh
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    Archer Lv 50
    Quote Originally Posted by Edgecrusher View Post
    Okay...while i'm not out with the pitchforks and the torches trying to raze the frankenstien's monster that is this game's PL system, i'm not going to give my man a road map on how to be extra lazy, no offence. I mean in all honesty with the way exp gains are, if you really just had people in your lvl range and a good 2.5 hours a night...you can make it from 25 ((taking in that you leveled 1-25 by yourself or however)) to 50 in 7-9 days max, seeing as how it was taking most of us halfway to the damned end of time to do that, i'd really not piss and moan.

    I'm not even saying it has to be god awfully grueling, or excruciatingly long, but when you herp-derp your backside in here asking a question like that what did you THINK was going to happen? Some of us veiw it as a blatent insult that we DID put in all that time, just to see in an ifrit or moogle pt "hey i got all 50's i only been playing a week, how do i tank/heal/dps this? lol". I and many like me think the damned leveling on this game is broken as hell recently and while i haven't lashed out, i don't endorse such.

    I could have had my butcher's crown ages ago, if we really brass tack it, but i take my time, not because i'm not playing, but because i'd rather go into a party at least halfway knowing what i'm doing before i piss off a group of people on my server with i'd like to play again with, or not waste all that precious ifrit DM (because that's ALL that S.O.B gives out lately) or dozens of repairs, because i blew through everything to get there, then i got there and didn't have a clue.

    You can learn combo sequences, fix bars accordingly, alot of minor tweaking really, that can only come from working in pt, or frankly some solo, that you don't get to learn while you sit afk and make a friend do your heavy lifting for you, but i'll simply tip my hat to you sir, bid you a good day, and leave it at that.
    well said sir, bravo!
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  7. #77
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    Galliano's Avatar
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    Mog Net
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    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 50
    Hey Rydin maybe you should go PL your shield you n00b!

    Haha only joking, I totally agree with you, this is pure lazy, if you really want to PL go and find the camps yourself, its really not that hard...
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  8. #78
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    Konstantine Porphyrogenitos
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 50
    "I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times."

    1-40 does teach you something about your job. You'd be surprised at the people I've run into who do not know how to rotate/stack their abilities properly.

    I've also met people who don't have a clue how to play in a team setting which makes doing AV and CC runs a pain in the ass, likewise for Ifrit and Moogle.

    Power-leveling is a epidemic and is so wide-spread due to the belief that you have to be 50 to get ANYTHING done in this game. (Which is partly true.) I'm sure when 2.0 is released and the player numbers jump SE will put a stop to the gross PL abuse. Until then take the high road people, learn your job inside and out and do that while you level.
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  9. #79
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    skele's + gnats west side of muntuy, 2 ppl pl'ing(1 person does gnats one does skele) gets you about 1-25 in 90min or less, camp there till 30.
    after same gig but hippo's and ixal's south west of glory at the ixal encampment.
    boom lv 40 in 3-4 hours.
    after have a gla and thm train ixals in natalan, 5-8 hours later hello lv 50.
    repeat other class.
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  10. #80
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zell View Post
    Any good power leveling locations for a group of 20-24 classes?

    I love to get my pug and archer to 40+.....

    Some of you might not want to give up your sweet spots.. but any suggestions are appreciated in advance.
    Either make sure that the person PLing you will also teach you how to play the job or..... don't get PL'd at all.
    There are already enough of those with a Paragorn's crown that don't know what Blindside, Featherfoot, Foresight, Parsimony, Dark seal and other very usefull abs do.
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