Quote Originally Posted by Elizar_Naki View Post
Barring lucky rolls on the coffers themselves if/when they drop, it takes 19 clears of this trial to buy 1 full set of gear (assuming the totems themselves are the usual auto-drops rather than something to be rolled for); regardless of the trial's difficulty, that's a bit excessive imho.
I have nothing to add mostly, just want to clarify this part. EX Trial gives 2 idols, not 1, so for a full set you need 10 runs at max, same as we usually need 10 runs for EX Trial Weapons (except Hades that also gave 2 idols which led to 5 runs for a weapon)

But here, we keep having to work harder and harder for essentially the same reward every xpac.
Because people... keep whining that they have nothing to do? :>

To be fair tho, with farmable AF set we got rather easy 1st stage for a relic weapon itself, so I could say that in combination the grind is somewhere there, but not much hard. Not that 1st phases for old relics were any harder anyway.