5.X Relic Feedback Thread

[Crushnight]

With the new relics out and about like to share what found good/bad/need to improve going forward.

The good:
-interesting storyline with giving some closure and new revelations.
-The solo instance is one of the best in the game atm, not too overwhelming, very pretty and kept a nice enough pace to keep me engaged.
-the base weapons are very manageable to get and very good catch up weapon for alt jobs also at the moment solo able and at people\\'s own pace without any fears of being left behind.
-The trial is fun, good visuals, with a nice amount of responsibility for each role, it\\'s just so very lenient with enrage even worse than Ruby is that not a good stepping stone for savage.

The Bad
-Incredibly short, this is especially bad giving when this has come out and you compare it to any other questline it is the barest one this could change going forward but right now too short for the length of waiting since expansion launched if this was in 5.1 I would\\'ve been more lenient but it\\'s not. (I\\'m a cutscene watcher I do not skip anything yet this was still very short).
-AF dyeable gear locked behind an extreme trial, I do not like this decision but I have no idea what you could\\'ve put in its place as an incentive to get people to run it, something like this should be a lot more open to more people, Extreme trials+ are too small an audience, the gear itself is mostly glam crafted is easier to get and hold over just as good despite being slightly weaker, this gets worse when it becomes outdated because newer people can\\'t get this glam gear, if this gear was 5 ilvs lower I could maybe see the appeal for Ultimates but its not it\\'s 480 so the crowd who can get it wouldn\\'t really use it since they can get better gear way more easily.

What can be improved
-if you decide to do another introductory quest chain like this again it needs more meat not story, gameplay is too short this time so adding more things to do would be beneficial so long as you keep it solo able at the person\\'s discretion.
-No AF dyeable locking behind an extreme trial give that trial something else in the future, the trial was good, I enjoyed it and had fun but the rewards felt off for what they were.

The quality to me was here there was just a quantity issue this was exasperated by the length of wait time to get the relic started.

[Fynlar]

What I've seen so far impressed me. Definitely better than everything Eureka.

Just hoping it doesn't succumb to 5.0 syndrome and set a bar for itself it can't meet later.

[Xatsh]

Well designed but ridiculously short. Falls way short of the Eureka version of stage 1 relics, last expansion was a step in the right direction. This expansion... well is probably the worst of all the relic upgrades so far mainly due to sheer lack of content.

Lets hope phase 2 actually has content involved in it and it is not 4-5 months away.

[EdwinLi]

From what I heard the grinding part is for the Alternate 5.X Relic weapons. The first Relic weapon is basically free which I suspect it is due to how this time the Relic weapon here is story related thus it maybe that they are following that the first Relic Weapon upgrades is story related as we progress through the Resistance Storyline while the alt Relic weapons are all about the grinding to get the alt weapons. Thus it maybe designed that the Resistance Story acts as our "trial" to unlock the 1st Relic weapon of our choice while alts focus on grinding to obtain them.

However, this is just my guess on how they maybe planning to treat 5.X relic weapons.

[Ramesses]

The stats on the new relics are truly amazing-- and this is just the base iteration? This is so much better than Eureka!

The stats on the new relics are truly amazing-- and this is just the base iteration?

The stats on the new relics are truly amazing--

[Raltar]

The DRK weapon looks awful. Stop making shovel swords.

[Alahra]

While I enjoyed this first leg of the questline, it definitely was not enough content to justify the wait, especially given that Zodiac and Anima weapons were released in the X.1 patch of the respective expansions. Eureka also came during the X.2 patch like this one, but it was a much more substantial content addition. What content is here is quite good: there's interesting lore, cool weapon designs, and a very impressive solo instance. This should have been an introductory chapter, though, perhaps released in 5.2, with the actual meat of the grind following in 5.25—not three to four months later in 5.35 as we're going to see now.

Beyond that, I am incredibly disappointed to find that the dyeable Artifact Armor sets are locked behind an Extreme trial. I long ago made a decision to avoid that level of content due to finding it more stressful than fun, instead digging into Relics as my primary content, since I prefer a more laid-back content style. Dyeable Artifact sets have always previously been available through more casual content (the market board in ARR, Tomestones in HW, and Eureka in SB), and it's frankly upsetting to have one of the things I was looking forward to the most this expansion locked behind content I'm really loathe to do.

[Bsrking5]

Oh its fun getting 340 hq mats and 120 hidden ones. Then I go and look at Crafters. Great, a yellow scrip grind instead of being about to gather everything and possibly selling to lazy crafters. Wait for me the combat ones. love it, designs are ok for base level I guess. Poetic sink is 1000 times better the eureka.

[Metsonm]

At least it's not Eureka. The instance was great, though: visuals were fantastic and I appreciate them going back to a Tome dump for now.

Haven't had a chance to try the Ex trial yet, but that's a direction I really like.

[Enla]

I'm okay that the base point of entry isn't the oncoming Eureka clone. With that said, so long as their Eureka clone improves upon what we left off with and we get a BA clone to go with it I'll be content. In all truth I really wasn't expect anything major since they dropped Diadem this patch cycle. I do hope they expand upon it in the next round however.