Revelations from Save the Queen

[Crushnight]

Apparently Matsuno is looking for feedback regarding this questline hopefully someone can pass on the questions raised in this raised to him.

[Rosenstrauch]

Apparently Matsuno is looking for feedback regarding this questline hopefully someone can pass on the questions raised in this raised to him.

You can edit your posts to fix typos/add more text to them after the fact. But yes, that might be a good idea.

[Anonymoose]

Apparently Matsuno is looking for feedback regarding this questline hopefully someone can pass on the questions raised in this raised to him.

I finished and organized the OP a little better specifically for this reason, tbh, lol

[Crushnight]

Apparently Matsuno is looking for feedback regarding this questline hopefully someone can pass on the questions raised in this raised to him.

Thread' sigh goddamnit

[FrightfulNight]

I noticed the Persian parallels with the lore behind the Gunhildrs and the similarities they had with the Immortals of the Achemenid Dynasty, mainly about how they were essentially the royal guard and enforcers and how when one died another would pick up the weapon.

[Theodric]

I think Matsuno handled things brilliantly. It was a lot more nuanced and less preachy than some of the plot threads present in Stormblood and it provided a decent amount of insight into various characters and factions. I particularly liked the Hrothgar fellow who made a point of not all Garleans being wicked. Cid falsely attributing Solus and then Varis as being present at Bozja is interesting - perhaps more doubt should be cast on his recollections and opinions of Garlemald in the future?

As for the Varis fight itself, I'm hoping that was his canon fighting style. He was pretty intimidating and impressive. Much more so than Zenos. It's a real shame we never got to work alongside Varis. Playing the FF7R has made me lament the lack of an equivalent of Rufus Shinra and The Turks that serve as something between rivals and enemies without ever being killed off. A lot of people playing Final Fantasy games play them for the sake of the antagonists after all!

Gabranth's plan is intriguing. I suspect we'll end up teaming up a faction within Garlemald to help stop Gabranth from destroying the place entirely - which could very well mean getting a 'Larsa' type figure at some point.

I'm pretty optimistic about the future of the quests - especially if we get to explore more of Dalmasca. I'm really hoping that we get to explore this game's equivalent of Lea Monde!

[JeanneOrnitier]

I'm pretty optimistic about the future of the quests - especially if we get to explore more of Dalmasca. I'm really hoping that we get to explore this game's equivalent of Lea Monde!

Even if the focus is (rightfully) on Bozja, I'll be surprised if Dalmasca never comes up at all. There has to be a reason this questline requires RtI after all. But as much as I want to actually go there, I'd be happy just seeing Lea Monde. I RP my character as being from there so would be nice to at least see what it looks like the same way we saw Valnain at the end of this patch.

[EdwinLi]

Even if the focus is (rightfully) on Bozja, I'll be surprised if Dalmasca never comes up at all. There has to be a reason this questline requires RtI after all. But as much as I want to actually go there, I'd be happy just seeing Lea Monde. I RP my character as being from there so would be nice to at least see what it looks like the same way we saw Valnain at the end of this patch.

Dalmasca will probably come up later since right now the quest given is just the Prologue quest that introduce us to the story and what the focus of the plot will be.

We may even see Ramza ,Fran, and the others again if things play out in a certian way and maybe introduce more characters from FFXII.

[Lauront]

I think Matsuno handled things brilliantly. It was a lot more nuanced and less preachy than some of the plot threads present in Stormblood and it provided a decent amount of insight into various characters and factions. I particularly liked the Hrothgar fellow who made a point of not all Garleans being wicked. Cid falsely attributing Solus and then Varis as being present at Bozja is interesting - perhaps more doubt should be cast on his recollections and opinions of Garlemald in the future?

Yeah, it was refreshing to have Marsak provide a counterweight to some of the more zealous anti-Garlean sentiment, and gives me some hope that they won't just resort to destroying Garlemald off screen, and maybe incorporate it into any future trip to Ilsabard, as it recovers following the civil war.

As for the Varis fight itself, I'm hoping that was his canon fighting style. He was pretty intimidating and impressive. Much more so than Zenos. It's a real shame we never got to work alongside Varis. Playing the FF7R has made me lament the lack of an equivalent of Rufus Shinra and The Turks that serve as something between rivals and enemies without ever being killed off. A lot of people playing Final Fantasy games play them for the sake of the antagonists after all!

Indeed, some of the most popular characters are antagonists. I'm assuming the "est" moves and the shield moves were things Varis could have feasibly performed as a high legatus using ceruleum and magitek. Not so sure about Altius and I wonder if Cid mixed up some techniques Zenos was renowned for with Varis, or whether he actually used such manoeuvres. At the least, the wandering dramaturge confirms he was renowned for his ferocity, so it puts to death this notion that he was just a politician.

I still hope we'll see some manner of cooperation arise with Elidibus, depending on how the story shapes up going forward.

Gabranth's plan is intriguing. I suspect we'll end up teaming up a faction within Garlemald to help stop Gabranth from destroying the place entirely - which could very well mean getting a 'Larsa' type figure at some point.

I'm pretty optimistic about the future of the quests - especially if we get to explore more of Dalmasca. I'm really hoping that we get to explore this game's equivalent of Lea Monde!

Agreed on both points.

Dalmasca will probably come up later since right now the quest given is just the Prologue quest that introduce us to the story and what the focus of the plot will be.

We may even see Ramza ,Fran, and the others again if things play out in a certian way and maybe introduce more characters from FFXII.

And hopefully more on the High Seraph. The mural at the end is really similar to her, with the spider-like thing engulfing the female in that being very similar to the High Seraph's spider-like lower body. She's one of the more intriguing entities in the setting, being a primal-like being existing within some alien entity.

[VargasVermillion]

Cid seeing both emperors in his memory to me just represents cid casting blame on the empire itself as a whole. The idea of his father shooting him is too painful to imagine so to cid it was the empire itself that killed his father and destroyed bozja. Who better to represent than the biggest figures in that empire.