Revelations from Save the Queen

[Vyrerus]

Reading over Mikoto's "extra information" prompts sets up a few interesting possibilities...





1. Her identical twin sister is clearly going to come into this somehow, and I would not be surprised if we get a "future Echo" where we don't know which of them we're seeing.

*Will Smith hand point/wave gesture at Minority Report*

The introduction of her identical, but better in every way, twin could also lead us to see a vision alongside each of them. This could introduce conflicting futuresights. How cheeky would it be for each of them to have a futuresight, believing it was about themselves or each other, and then they try to prevent what is to come, because despite futuresight being extrasensory in nature, it's still limited by physical sight. hehehe

As for Moenbryda, I feel like if they were going to do it, it would be from needing to pilfer around in Urianger's memory.

[JeanneOrnitier]

Not exactly a revelation, but turns out the false memories to block trauma stuff (and maybe the memory world too?) was inspired by an idea Matsuno had for a Vagrant Story sequel that never happened: https://twitter.com/YasumiMatsuno/st...11231773716481

[Anonymoose]

Inb4 after all this speculation there's some loop-closing switcheroo, like Eighth Umbral G'raha using his blood (confirmed to be the catalyst between the spiritual aether - soul, mind, and memory - and corporeal aether - the body) to transfer his memories to Source G'raha, who wakes up one day, goes back in time trusting his visions and having faith in the narrative that this is how it has to be, and now that loop is "the way it always was" (from the illusory 3D perspective where time isn't all happening at once). The Eighth Umbral Era, an "illusion" that "never happened".

But then how did all that Ironworks stuff get into the basement. Bah.

[A2B2]

Anyone else notice the fact that

When we are in Cid's mind, at the final boss battle, when he is told to conjure up some memories to help fight the Emperor, he remembers everyone as they are in The First and not how they are in Eorzea? Also he remembers Rynne whom he never even met... the Devs kinda dropped the ball on that one.

[Iscah]

Anyone else notice the fact that

When we are in Cid's mind, at the final boss battle, when he is told to conjure up some memories to help fight the Emperor, he remembers everyone as they are in The First and not how they are in Eorzea? Also he remembers Rynne whom he never even met... the Devs kinda dropped the ball on that one.

Wasn't it our character that imagined up the Scions there? However that's supposed to work when we're in Cid's mind.

[MrThinker]

Wasn't it our character that imagined up the Scions there? However that's supposed to work when we're in Cid's mind.

The answer is yes and the details are non-existent. Probably something to do with it being the sort of memory where changes can happen and our Echo, but that's just speculation without proof... aka wild guessing.

[Phydeaux]

I'll always be salty that _Gabranth_ in a plot closely related to an Ivalice instance leads the IVth. There goes a pure IV plot out of the window.

OK, Asura may be related, but the sweet sauce of IV will always be so many side-changes no one can pinpoint which side they're on. Now it's demoted to support a XII McGuffin.

Oh, the XIIth is taken by Zenos? As Italian Spider-Man once wisely said, "though luck pussycat". Should've taken the XIIIth or something. Boo!

[Vyrerus]

I'll always be salty that _Gabranth_ in a plot closely related to an Ivalice instance leads the IVth. There goes a pure IV plot out of the window.

OK, Asura may be related, but the sweet sauce of IV will always be so many side-changes no one can pinpoint whjich side they're on. Now it's demoted to support a XII McGuffin.

Oh, the XIIth is taken by Zenos? As Italian Spider-Man once wisely said, "though luck pussycat". Should've taken the XIIIth or something. Boo!

I'm willing to wager that Rubicant, Valvalis, Cagnazzo, and Milon are being saved to be raid bosses or Extremes in 6.0.

[Yuella]

Inb4 after all this speculation there's some loop-closing switcheroo, like Eighth Umbral G'raha using his blood (confirmed to be the catalyst between the spiritual aether - soul, mind, and memory - and corporeal aether - the body) to transfer his memories to Source G'raha, who wakes up one day, goes back in time trusting his visions and having faith in the narrative that this is how it has to be, and now that loop is "the way it always was" (from the illusory 3D perspective where time isn't all happening at once). The Eighth Umbral Era, an "illusion" that "never happened".

But then how did all that Ironworks stuff get into the basement. Bah.

Maybe First G'raha will send a message to Source G'raha that leads him to create NOAH and investigate the Crystal Tower in the first place, creating a time loop.

[Seraphor]

Maybe First G'raha will send a message to Source G'raha that leads him to create NOAH and investigate the Crystal Tower in the first place, creating a time loop.

A timeloop is already out of the question as the future on the Scource was altered the moment we travelled to the First.
Exarch G'raha comes from an alternate future that will now never exist.