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    What little they gave us of the story so far really has me interested. I always thought that the story just dropped off after the Ivalice 24 mans so I am very happy that we are exploring more about what is going on in Othard. It seems pretty big for just side content (at least the buildup of it is), will it incorporate into the main scenario at all? Or will we just be coming back every other patch to help out here and there for this weapon and some story tidbits?
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    From what I can gather, it's meant to be MSQ-parallel. Matsuno-san designed areas under imperial rule, now he's liberating them from it, and Bozja gets to come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    From what I can gather, it's meant to be MSQ-parallel. Matsuno-san designed areas under imperial rule, now he's liberating them from it, and Bozja gets to come.
    This makes me incredibly happy. I cant wait to see where this goes. July can't come soon enough.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BasicBlake View Post
    It seems pretty big for just side content (at least the buildup of it is), will it incorporate into the main scenario at all? Or will we just be coming back every other patch to help out here and there for this weapon and some story tidbits?
    Side content doesn't mean unimportant content. Remember we've just had an entire expansion with previous "side content" elements at its core, and Cid's personal story has been unfolding over various storylines. (The groundwork for his appearance here, particularly for a non-legacy player, was really laid during the Omega quests which aren't even a prerequisite here.)

    Actually tying back into MSQ events seems unlikely, since its optional and can't be reliably referred to as happening, but it certainly forms part of the larger narrative.
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    Last edited by Iscah; 04-15-2020 at 10:15 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    If the Ancients could see any of the future at all, it strikes me as odd that that the Amaurotines would like to debate as much as they did.

    You'd think having advance access to what the other would say and which course of action or philosophy would pan out better would take the fun out of it.
    Have you ever seen Minority Report? Just because you have pre-cognition, doesn't mean your pre-cognition is the best/only vision of the future(s).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vyrerus View Post
    Have you ever seen Minority Report? Just because you have pre-cognition, doesn't mean your pre-cognition is the best/only vision of the future(s).
    Mikoto specifically states that her visions do show the definite future, not just a possibility.

    Of course there's a possibility she just hasn't encountered an exception yet, especially if they're rare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Mikoto specifically states that her visions do show the definite future, not just a possibility.

    Of course there's a possibility she just hasn't encountered an exception yet, especially if they're rare.
    Yeah, sure hers does. Not like that will be something we overturn probably with the next iteration or two of it, unless they keep it a one off. More than that though, if we're going to suppose that Ancients had futuresight, and we already suppose that the Echo is different at varying levels of strength for everyone, then it stands to reason that if the Ancients could see the future, not all of them could/would see it with the same scope. Hence, debating each other would still have merit, since either not everyone is 100% Absolute Oracle or everyone is, but can't agree on what the futuresight means for the journey to get there.
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    I think a society with as much bureaucracy as Amaurot would just devise a test for determining prophetic sensitivity and then give the person who got the highest score a red mask, so either we're running away with our assumptions or Mikoto just indirectly introduced Elidibus's character development, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anonymoose View Post
    I think a society with as much bureaucracy as Amaurot would just devise a test for determining prophetic sensitivity and then give the person who got the highest score a red mask, so either we're running away with our assumptions or Mikoto just indirectly introduced Elidibus's character development, lol.
    It was Frieza Planet 419. Teach the controversy!
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    Though considering that the Ancient ones are practically confirmed to have oracles, it does make me wonder if there were any Jor-El figures among them, since by extension they would have been among the first to know of that their would would soon end because of nighmarish tuplas manifested against their will by their own magics.
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