New Relic weapon quest - are we down to 1 hour content already?

[swiss_Momo]

it could be worse, since it's at least not like the abomination that was Eureka (although I have that nagging fear that they'll turn it Eureka like in later steps). But there definitely is a huge difference between "there won't be much of a grind" and "wow, it's *kupo*ing nothing".
Also I'm really not sure if locking dyeable AF gear behind an EX trial was a good idea

[Saefinn]

Really, people are not looking at what the new grind is intended to be and only see the fact they can get 3 i485 relics in 1 hour and miss everything else.

It takes 10 clears of the new EX to get one set of i480 dyeible Job gear and 162 clears to get all 17 sets withour winning a coffer. This is what is intended to be the filler grind.

Chapter 1 makes me think of ARR relic. We know there's subsequent chapters, so I'll wait to what they're like before I cast doubts. I think it's one of those cases where "wait and see" should apply, though I am aware in many cases "wait and see" ends up being a moving goal post, but at the moment our only point of reference of SE doing something like this is ARR relic, which in subsequent tiers was grindy as heck (to my disappointment, filled with waiting around and RNG). If the next tier is like this, then I might start worrying what's up.

I know the trial is gonna be our grind but for the relic armour sets and not weapon.

And I guess in fairness, how relic is earned has been different each time. Taking the first tiers of each, ARR was a questline with 5 HM trials, HW was FATE grinding + dungeons + items, SB was glorified FATE grinding in Anemos, ShB is a questline + solo instance + EX trial grinding.

[Losara]

it could be worse, since it's at least not like the abomination that was Eureka (although I have that nagging fear that they'll turn it Eureka like in later steps). But there definitely is a huge difference between "there won't be much of a grind" and "wow, it's *kupo*ing nothing".
Also I'm really not sure if locking dyeable AF gear behind an EX trial was a good idea

Agree. Locking nice things behind an EX trial isn't going to make people do the trials if SE is wanting to boost the amount of players doing the content unless the trial is a punching bag.

[Canadane]

They're taking Rowenas maerketing to heart, it's very meta.
In her eyes, you get one free to keep you coming back for more sands.
In SE's eyes they make stage one very quick and easy and you'll be back for stage two.

[Videra]

I am more upset that they locked the dyable jobgear behind a extreme trial. Sad that they choosed to punish casuals because they created a giant contenthole.

I'd say any casual can clear the extreme trials they've been putting out, recently. But then I remember that I'm on crystal.

[Neoom]

I mean the guest line was semi interesting and the solo duty was fun, and can't complain about getting a weapon that easy and fast. Sure I wanted a little bit more, but this wins over the HW fate grind I did for 7 Animas. People also seems to forget, there is going to be more. Hopefully we won't have to wait months and months, but there is more chapters, more steps, this isn't the whole weapon. I stay neutral about the relics until we see next step or two.

[Rai_Takara]

To be fair, they did tell us this step was the easy step, so I'm not bummed out with it. On top of that I think this EX trial is better than Ruby Weapon in presentation and difficulty.

What isn't okay though is that we've consistently got less content this expansion and the reason for that has not been explained. The assumption is possibly ARR rework, but without confirmation, that's just giving SE a free pass which I don't think they should be given.

[Ranaku]

I'd say any casual can clear the extreme trials they've been putting out, recently. But then I remember that I'm on crystal.

My problem isn't even that it's maybe too hard (or easy). I can clear it and someday even maybe solo it when we are lvl 100. I am just upset they used it for filling their self created content hole. It's like a one trick pony, couldn't think of something new so we get just the same old ex trial we have to deal always with and because it needs some reward just lock the glam behind it.

I don't know, slowly it just looks like a one trick pony, i know Eureka wasn't that great but honestly it was finally something new. And filled with many rewards such as mounts and glam and housing items. What do we have in ShB do fill the midgame? Diadem, running/flying in a circle and grinding nodes + crafting the same old collectables.

[Nestama]

They're taking Rowenas maerketing to heart, it's very meta.
In her eyes, you get one free to keep you coming back for more sands.
In SE's eyes they make stage one very quick and easy and you'll be back for stage two.

But I don't want to be in in-game debt

[Rai_Takara]

My problem isn't even that it's maybe too hard (or easy). I can clear it and someday even maybe solo it when we are lvl 100. I am just upset they used it for filling their self created content hole. It's like a one trick pony, couldn't think of something new so we get just the same old ex trial we have to deal always with and because it needs some reward just lock the glam behind it.

I don't know, slowly it just looks like a one trick pony, i know Eureka wasn't that great but honestly it was finally something new. And filled with many rewards such as mounts and glam and housing items. What do we have in ShB do fill the midgame? Diadem, running/flying in a circle and grinding nodes + crafting the same old collectables.

I'm glad we DON'T have Eureka as I thought it was terrible content for relics and only existed to show people that old school MMO gameplay is the way of the past. The only good thing that came from Eureka was the Baldesian Arsenal. Relics should have never been a part of it, but without holding relics hostage inside them, very few would bother with Eureka as is, especially prior to BA's release.