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    Nemekh Kinryuu
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    Summoner Lv 90

    Pets unable to spawn during peaked Actor segments in Eden's Verse instances (E6N&E6S)

    Date & Time: 06/04/2020
    Frequency: Always
    World name: Leviathan
    Character name: Nemekh Kinryuu
    Retainer name: Naubi
    NPC name: N/A
    Monster name: N/A
    Class/Level: SMN/SCH
    Party or solo: Party
    In-game time: N/A
    Area and coordinates: Any areas with combat
    Housing: N/A

    Steps:
    1. Be in an intense segment of e6n, e6s with many mechanics happening
    2. Perform an action that summons a new pet
    3. Observe as a pet does not appear

    This bug has fortunately only been seen in two instances and no more. Eden's Verse: Furor and Eden's Verse: Furor (Savage).

    This has become a problem for:
    • Summoners summoning Demi-Bahamut and him not spawning
    • Summoners summoning Demi-Phoenix with Firebird Trance and him not spawning
    • Summoners not having an Egi respawn after using Demi-Bahamut or Demi-Phoenix
    • Scholars not having their fairy respawn after using Dissipation
    • Machinist summoning Automaton Queen and it not spawning

    It may also be a problem for DRK Esteem and even AST Star, but I have not heard of any cases of such.

    Segments where this tends to occur:
    • Normal: Raktapaksa Eruption baits, Storm of Fury into Hands of Hell and Heat Bursts
    • Savage: Garuda Air Bump into Blue Knockback Marker into Thorns before Vaccum Slice
    • Savage: Garuda Vacuum Slice into Occluded Front orbs + Tethers
    • Savage: Ifrit and Raktapaksa Strike Spark Great Balls of Fire (Soccer phases)
    • Savage: Raktapaksa Hands of Flame into half room fire cleaves (after Strike Spark)
    • Savage: Raktapaksa Hands of Hell into Explosion circles and room cleaves

    During all of these boss gimmicks there is one common factor: a really high number of active enemy actors. We know that hidden actors exist to perform gimmicks in the game - Yoshida has talked about this before. We also know that one actor cannot perform multiple actions as a general rule and that for high intensity mechanics to exist multiple actors must be performing these gimmicks.

    Let's break down each case.

    Normal: Raktapaksa Eruption baits, Storm of Fury into Hands of Hell and Heat Bursts

    There are separate actors for:
    • each Eruption bait
    • each Storm of Fury (protean) cleave
    • Raktapaksa clones performing extra Hands of Hell tethers
    • each Hands of Hell circle that detonates after

    Savage: Air Bump into Blue Knockback Marker into Thorns

    There are separate actors for:
    • each Air Bump (enumeration)
    • each Thorns (green spike)
    • the giant blue knockback marker

    Savage: Garuda Vacuum Slice into Occluded Front orbs + Tethers

    There are separate actors for:
    • each Air Bump (enumeration) circle and the Thorns (massive green spikes) after
    • each Storm of Fury (protean) tether and cleave
    • each Occluded Front orb (Tumultuous Nexus) present in the arena eventually exploding
    • the Irresistable Pull in towards the center
    • both Ferrostorm cones

    Savage: Ifrit and Raktapaksa Strike Spark Great Balls of Fire (Soccer phases)

    There are separate actors for:
    • each Great Ball of Fire (fire orbs) and their Spike of Flame explosions
    • each Eruption bait before the Hot Foot kicks
    • each Ifrit/Raktapaksa kicking the Great Balls of Fire with Hot Foot
    • each Hands of Hell tether clone after
    • each Hands of Hell circle detonation

    Savage: Raktapaksa Hands of Flame into half room fire cleaves (after Strike Spark)

    There are separate actors for:
    • each Heat Burst
    • Eruptions
    plus any potential remainders from the Strike Spark phase just before.

    Savage: Raktapaksa Hands of Hell into Explosion circles and room cleaves

    There are separate actors for:
    • each Hands of Hell tether and clone
    • each circle detonation
    • each roomwide fire aoe

    Over the course of the encounter we're talking over 70-80 separate actors used total easily, but the problem is when there are too many present simultaneously at a single time interfering with player owned NPCs being unable to spawn. I'm not sure what this number is, perhaps it's 32 enemy actors or a sensible code related number. But the fact is it's become a problem.

    It's like if an entity has too many statuses and you try to apply a new status it will not take hold, only instead of an entity it's the instance and instead of statuses it's NPC Actors present.

    The battle system developers absolutely need to know that having an encounter this dense in actors for mechanics is breaking things for pet jobs. For the sake of future encounters and adding pets to even more jobs please be aware of this limitation.

    Examples in action:

    Phoenix not spawning with Firebird Trance. Revelation is greyed out and Summon Pet actions are visible and able to be used.

    Phoenix again not spawning with Firebird Trance. Summon Pet actions are visible and able to be used

    Bahamut not spawning with Summon Bahamut. Summon pet actions are visible and able to be used. One was used once it was seen Bahamut bugged out.

    Egi not respawning after Summon Bahamut. Summon pet actions are visible and able to be used. Egi Assaults are greyed out with the default Egi Assault icons. Summoner later noticing this summons Ifrit egi and Egi Assaults are able to be used as normal.

    Machinist summoning Automaton Queen at 100 gauge but it fails to spawn.

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