As a dancer, getting a second dancer in DF is pretty demoralizing: three QoL pleas.

[Harmonea]

As a dancer, getting a second dancer in DF is pretty demoralizing, because Technical step, Tech step Esprit, and Devilment all overwrite each other when dancers do not coordinate their use.

1. Tech step Esprit is the most demoralizing: A dancer who hits tech step first only to have that tech step overwritten by another dancer often loses ~2 Saber Dances during a prime burst window because Esprit stops being fed to them and instead goes to the dancer who went second. I would like to see it edited so that tech step's Esprit could stack, and each time a target generates a proc, that Esprit is shared to each dancer who has buffed the target. (I suggest keeping Standard Step's single-target Esprit as-is to prevent the sort of padding that would happen if multiple dancers partner the same target).
2. Technical step's damage buff potential is chopped in half if overwritten early, too. I understand that allowing it to stack would make it overpowered on burst windows when multiple cooldowns are stacked, so I would like to see its effect edited so that tech step's damage buff extends any existing tech step already present.
3. With Devilment I'd like to see the same treatment as point 2 in that it's too powerful for stacking and could extend itself, but since it's a single-target buff without the kind of wind-up time that's built into tech step, it's somewhat easier to plan around and could be lower priority to fix.

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Disclaimers: Please note the DF context in the title. I do understand that in statics and PF you will want to control for zero to one dancers per group, but DF offers no such ability. This makes DF content such as expert roulette, 24-man raids, and normal modes more adversarial than they need to be when multiple dancers are grouped together. While I understand this is not challenging content, it can turn what should be a comfortable activity into something frustrating if one cares to play the job well in all contexts and is confronted with fellow dancers who have no care for coordinating a dance order.

[Seraphor]

That's the downside to buffing jobs.
Double Ninja has to deal with Trick Attack shifting, can be a real pain.
To lesser extents:
Dragoon has Battle Litany.
Tanks often overlap Reprisals.

[Harmonea]

That's the downside to buffing jobs.
Double Ninja has to deal with Trick Attack shifting, can be a real pain.
To lesser extents:
Dragoon has Battle Litany.
Tanks often overlap Reprisals.

These examples are valid things that should also be looked at.

However, none of these directly screws over the buffer who goes first in the way that tech step esprit does. When a second dancer overwrites a tech step, the first dancer immediately stops getting a large part of the benefit of that buff. It's an adversarial interaction in that the second buffer's mistake not only costs the group their double-duration buff, but it directly hurts the person who went first. So it's not as comparable as you make it out to be.

[Tracewood]

That's the downside to buffing jobs.
Double Ninja has to deal with Trick Attack shifting, can be a real pain.
To lesser extents:
Dragoon has Battle Litany.
Tanks often overlap Reprisals.

I dunno, double Dragoon is pretty awesome. We would alternate Litany and tether each other. For added bonus, play the Double Dragon theme during a boss fight.

[KDSilver]

Technical step buff to gain esprit should work like Monk Brotherhood.
It's splited into 2 "buff". The one giving chakra can stack if there are two monk.

[JohnnyDevo]

Am I remembering things wrong? I thought esprit stacking was one of the first things they quickly did to the class after release?

[Akiudo]

try double bard, not even different songs stack so you cant even work around the buff just not working with each other

[wereotter]

try double bard, not even different songs stack so you cant even work around the buff just not working with each other

The complaint, I think, is more that the dancer loses the ability to generate esprit off the whole party when a second dancer uses technical step whereas bard as I understand the job doesn't get extra DPS from the party using the bard's buff.

This can be resolved the same way monks now give the party two buffs, one which can be overridden by another monk that raises damage, and one that gives the monk the ability to get chakra stacks regardless of how many monks have used brotherhood. I think this is a reasonable request. Every dancer who uses Technical Step should be able to generate esprit even if they're both going at once.

Stacking the same damage up buff, however, is something the game never lets you do, and this is particularlly true with bards and their always up buffs. If the songs could stack, every meta would be to run four bards.

[Akiudo]

The complaint, I think, is more that the dancer loses the ability to generate esprit off the whole party when a second dancer uses technical step whereas bard as I understand the job doesn't get extra DPS from the party using the bard's buff.

This can be resolved the same way monks now give the party two buffs, one which can be overridden by another monk that raises damage, and one that gives the monk the ability to get chakra stacks regardless of how many monks have used brotherhood. I think this is a reasonable request. Every dancer who uses Technical Step should be able to generate esprit even if they're both going at once.

Stacking the same damage up buff, however, is something the game never lets you do, and this is particularlly true with bards and their always up buffs. If the songs could stack, every meta would be to run four bards.

which vastly overestimates the value of the passive bard buffs, there are only 3 buffs in total, and bards without those buffs are basically worthless, heck with the buffs they are close to worthless, i can see not letting the same buff stack, but different buffs ? if you really think a 2% crit buff and a 1% all damage buff (not even allways that combination, thats just the best and most rewarding third of the fight) , coming at the cost of one bard playing a suboptimal rotation at that would break the game i really wonder where all those partys stacking bard and dancer are.

[Miziliti]

The complaint, I think, is more that the dancer loses the ability to generate esprit off the whole party when a second dancer uses technical step whereas bard as I understand the job doesn't get extra DPS from the party using the bard's buff.

This can be resolved the same way monks now give the party two buffs, one which can be overridden by another monk that raises damage, and one that gives the monk the ability to get chakra stacks regardless of how many monks have used brotherhood. I think this is a reasonable request. Every dancer who uses Technical Step should be able to generate esprit even if they're both going at once.

Stacking the same damage up buff, however, is something the game never lets you do, and this is particularlly true with bards and their always up buffs. If the songs could stack, every meta would be to run four bards.

This is too true. Jobs that double stack buffs in DF aren't really bothering me until dancer came along with esprit generation limit. Now, I almost always have the other dancer to tech first. I really wish dancers can share esprit with each other.