Dungeons need some spice!

[RylaBee]

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Thank you for the info.

One note thou: I'm assuming that the thing people were afraid of was wiping on bosses specifically.
That is not necessarily what I mean by interesting dungeon design.

What I mean, is giving the place sense of purpose, non-linearity and having actually difficult trash, that needs to be correctly pulled and crowd-controlled if necessary.
SE seem to be morbidly afraid of creating difficult trash, that would need any consideration beyond being time-sink on the road to next boss.
That is why many players just purposefully pull wall-to-wall to create at least bit of excitement.

[Vyrerus]

Thank you for the info.

One note thou: I'm assuming that the thing people were afraid of was wiping on bosses specifically.
That is not necessarily what I mean by interesting dungeon design.

What I mean, is giving the place sense of purpose, non-linearity and having actually difficult trash, that needs to be correctly pulled and crowd-controlled if necessary.
SE seem to be morbidly afraid of creating difficult trash, that would need any consideration beyond being time-sink on the road to next boss.
That is why many players just purposefully pull wall-to-wall to create at least bit of excitement.

Again, this was something they implemented in earlier dungeons, where if you did not stun or silence certain monsters in the trash pack, they could potentially be a wipe cause by confusing the healer. In Pharos Sirius there were several. The first were the uhh, 4 legged fish dog things around the first corner that spit vulnerability water on the tank eventually. In entry gear if you walled to wall, you ran into a pirate barber and two fish dogs. The barbers heal the entire pack and the fish dogs make the tank take more damage.

After the first boss if you wall to walled, you got multiple Corrupted Sprites, capable of casting Banishga III. If it went off, it dealt 3~4k damage to everyone in the group, depending on job(sorry original DRG with lower Mdef than Gatherers). This meant, a one shot for most DPS or healers if they were in bare minimum entry gear. If you wall to wall'd you also ran into another pirate barber on top of two of those sprites. Needless to say, if the sprites weren't stopped and the barber wasn't killed promptly, you were going to wipe on trash, and many people did.

Pharos Sirius also had side rooms with extra treasure. While still mostly linear, the dungeon spiraled up, because it is a lighthouse. You couldn't get map completion for it without visiting the siderooms. It also sported 4 bosses instead of the typical 3.