Droprate unbalanced

[Stepjam]

I'm pretty sure you still can only win one item a week from savage

[KageTokage]

This really wouldn't change anything. People will simply switch to the job that doesn't have gear in order to roll on things if some of restriction were put in place.

I was mostly wishing they'd enforce the "one item per week per fight" rule that's present in normal mode on top of the existing restrictions for the sake of preventing scenarios where one player screws the entire group out of loot by winning everything when they're already BiS.

I've also seen only one on-class weapon drop and won zero weapon coffers out of the 30-40ish clears of tier endboss fights I've been in, so I have some seriously cursed luck.

I'm pretty sure you still can only win one item a week from savage

Just had someone win both the weapon and chest armor coffer from E8S this week, so definitely not the case.

[SinisterJoints]

I was mostly wishing they'd enforce the "one item per week per fight" rule that's present in normal mode on top of the existing restrictions for the sake of preventing scenarios where one player screws the entire group out of loot by winning everything when they're already BiS.

I've also seen only one on-class weapon drop and won zero weapon coffers out of the 30-40ish clears of tier endboss fights I've been in, so I have some seriously cursed luck.



Just had someone win both the weapon and chest armor coffer from E8S this week, so definitely not the case.

Yes the weapon and gear are seperate in E8 (any last tier has always been that way(except at launch and through HW iirc) you can get weapon AND a piece of gear since the weapon coffer change . So definitely still is the case.

You need to learn what you are talking about and if getting gear evenly in your group is so important, MAKE A STATIC. There is nothing that needs changing here except your understanding of it

[KageTokage]

Yes the weapon and gear are seperate in E8 (any last tier has always been that way(except at launch and through HW iirc) you can get weapon AND a piece of gear since the weapon coffer change . So definitely still is the case.

You need to learn what you are talking about and if getting gear evenly in your group is so important, MAKE A STATIC. There is nothing that needs changing here except your understanding of it

I'm aware of that and was responding to someone who was under the mistaken impression that you could get only one item per lockout from a fight, so pay attention before you start saying I don't know what I'm talking about.

Anyhow, my schedule doesn't really permit me to be in a static, so I guess I'm out of luck unless people are willing to join a lootmaster party (Which they usually aren't due to trust issues) that prioritizes giving the gear to people who actually need it.

I still don't see what would be so unreasonable about having a "Can win only one item per fight via need roll" restriction, though, or really, just anything to help it not take over a bloody month to get a single piece of gear from a specific fight if you can't win rolls on anything.

[SinisterJoints]

I'm aware of that and was responding to someone who was under the mistaken impression that you could get only one item per lockout from a fight, so pay attention before you start saying I don't know what I'm talking about.

Anyhow, my schedule doesn't really permit me to be in a static, so I guess I'm out of luck unless people are willing to join a lootmaster party (Which they usually aren't due to trust issues) that prioritizes giving the gear to people who actually need it.

I still don't see what would be so unreasonable about having a "Can win only one item per fight via need roll" restriction, though, or really, just anything to help it not take over a bloody month to get a single piece of gear from a specific fight if you can't win rolls on anything.

It literally IS that way currently. You can only get one ARMOR piece, per week, PER FIGHT, in the current raid tier. The only exception is the last fight where you can get a Weapon Coffer AND a Piece of Gear ( still only ONCE per week) The books are there to supplement if you cant win any rolls.

There is no need to change it further

[Vidu]

It literally IS that way currently. You can only get one ARMOR piece, per week, PER FIGHT, in the current raid tier. The only exception is the last fight where you can get a Weapon Coffer AND a Piece of Gear ( still only ONCE per week) The books are there to supplement if you cant win any rolls.

There is no need to change it further

I'm pretty sure you're confusing Savage with NM... yes, in NM you can only win one token AND you get the sword in E8, but in Savage you can roll on all pieces of gear that drop AND win all of them. So as long as more than one piece of armor drops (which is always the case with 2 chests at the very least) you can win multiple pieces.
You can only get loot once per week, but then you can get as much as you manage to outroll your partymembers on.

[Vidu]

I'm pretty sure you still can only win one item a week from savage

You can win multiple items aswell as winning multiple items from the same type and winning an item for a slot that your current character already has the gear for - aka you can win a chest coffer even though your character is currently wearing an Edenchest-piece. Thats something a lot of people are upset about, because before, if (lets say) your co-tank already had the tank-chest you were going to get it for sure. Now you have to (potentially) always roll against 7 other people if you pug and dont agree on certain lootrules before (something people seem to be totally uncapable off).

I'd still like to emphasis that this system is still an improvement. Back in Coil days you could see someone walk away with all the loot just aswell and get nothing for weeks without any books to trade in. I'm not saying that our current system is perfect, but I'm not sure if limiting the amount of loot one person can get after the clear is really the right solution.