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  1. #11
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    Caitlinzulu's Avatar
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    Caitlin Seraphim
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    Shiva
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    And running it enough times there is bound to be a run where you run off with all the spoils.

    Isn't it a bit presumptious to say that only the ones that get carried have the good rolls?

    Everyone getting the same chance at getting a drop, you cant get more fair then that.
    And like some others already mentioned you also get the guaranteed drop you can turn in for gear.
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  2. #12
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    KageTokage's Avatar
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    Alijana Tumet
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    I do think it's genuinely stupid that the same player can win literally every single item that drops from a given boss due to there being no restrictions on how many items you can win.

    The odds of winning something would be better if people had to actually pick and choose
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  3. #13
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    Ultimatecalibur's Avatar
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    Kakita Ucalibur
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    Siren
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    Paladin Lv 86
    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I do think it's genuinely stupid that the same player can win literally every single item that drops from a given boss due to there being no restrictions on how many items you can win.

    The odds of winning something would be better if people had to actually pick and choose
    You mean a system similar to the NM one token per week limit?
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  4. #14
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    KDSilver's Avatar
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    Shiru Elysia
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    Moogle
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    What they did for the current savage loot system is good (chest for all class)
    However, yes, sometime, you reach a point where you see some people getting one or two loot per reset while you get none for 5 weeks. (I only got my first piece from savage this week).
    But that's not something that will make me quit however, that's a bit exagerated.
    Gearing is not interesting and a bonus so it will be done through time with tomestone and weekly token anyway so.
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  5. #15
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Cactuar
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SXTC View Post
    My friend just told me I forgot to mention that it's mainly an issue at savage where everyone gets to need all the items. So the frustrating part is that some people that do almost nothing run off with the drops while the people that do the most get nothing over and over. RNG or not.. this should be adressed as it discourages players to stick around. The freeloaders/selfish people will ofcourse love this system as it gives them an edge to get something they haven't earned... but I doubt SE is aiming to please only those.

    And I realize barely anyone will still want to play if they knew they were no longer able to optain more items. But giving a % boost to those that haven't gotten it yet that week would be a sollution for end game content, and ontop of that... its fair and just.
    How are they freeloaders/selfish? Assuming everyone played at a relatively equal level and you weren't say, carrying a Samurai who died five times, then they contributed to the clear just as much as you did. How is it freeloading they want to roll on loot? Even if they already got something, that is simply the way RNG goes sometimes.

    Frankly, I think they should just move to a personal loot system to avoid all this. Nevertheless, it isn't freeloading to roll on the coffers as it currently stands.
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  6. #16
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    xxvaynxx's Avatar
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    Oniwori Kiyuromi
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    Balmung
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Your friend should have played during HW raiding then.
    I remember I went a month without my SMN Book dropping from AS12 while my whole static had their weapon.
    Or in SB when the same gosh dang nin gloves kept dropping every week and we didn't even have a ninja in the group.
    Is that better? I don't think so.
    At least we get books and you always have a chance to roll on something so nothing is ever useless to you.
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  7. #17
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by xxvaynxx View Post
    Your friend should have played during HW raiding then.
    I remember I went a month without my SMN Book dropping from AS12 while my whole static had their weapon.
    Or in SB when the same gosh dang nin gloves kept dropping every week and we didn't even have a ninja in the group.
    Is that better? I don't think so.
    At least we get books and you always have a chance to roll on something so nothing is ever useless to you.
    Can always go back to the coil method. No books, no coffers, just RNG. We didn't see the Casting earrings from T9 drop until about halfway through Heavensward.
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  8. #18
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    xxvaynxx's Avatar
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    Oniwori Kiyuromi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Can always go back to the coil method. No books, no coffers, just RNG. We didn't see the Casting earrings from T9 drop until about halfway through Heavensward.
    This. So your friend should be grateful honestly because if the dev's never changed anything, we'll be still in coil loot rules. Because then they'll really have something to quit over.
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  9. #19
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    Vidu Moriquendi
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Can always go back to the coil method. No books, no coffers, just RNG. We didn't see the Casting earrings from T9 drop until about halfway through Heavensward.
    ...also no "equal" places for your gear drops - play a tank? Grats, you can get your chest piece in T1 (if your lucky enough to see it drop and win against your co-tank! Play as monk and you better beat Twintania to have a chance to get your chest...
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  10. #20
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    Gabriel Morgan
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    Adamantoise
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    I do think it's genuinely stupid that the same player can win literally every single item that drops from a given boss due to there being no restrictions on how many items you can win.

    The odds of winning something would be better if people had to actually pick and choose
    Are you talking about first tier eden or nier? Those are uncapped. Current content does have restrictions to lootinv
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