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  1. #111
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    If i am remembering wrong the DoL leves have their own item to collect when leve starts
    DoL leves, yes. the quest turnins at those levels are actual mats.

    DoH leves at those levels are a whole bunch of stuff you'll never make otherwise, and have some overlap with GC turnins.
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  2. #112
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    splinter1545's Avatar
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    Never gonna happen. Remember, this game is full of limitations that somehow goes away when money is involved, and they make a good amount of money on extra retainers.
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  3. #113
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    Elja Djt-dvre
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    Would it hurt the lore police if they deleted at least half if not more of all mats from 1 to 70.
    Welp, it actually would. Not to the point "impossible to play" of course, but along with all the types of metals, branches and meat there are just as much different types of armor, potions and food that are crafted from these materials. Bronze Cuirass and Mythrill Cuirass created from same "versatile ingot" (how even) or Branch Staff created from Log (why doing the whole log if you could cut just one good branch) would look weird, logically and chemistry wise, considering that up to now we have quite realistic craft system (there's even a whole youtube channel where girl recreates FF14's food based on in-game recipes).

    That said, if they will ever decide to remove some "potentionally connectable" materials, they probably will need to do some rework on items that are crafted from them too, to save the whole logic that exists in system now. Not impossible, but not very likely to happen I think. The theoretical analogue of glamour dresser but for materials seems to be more feasible.
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    Last edited by Halivel; 04-02-2020 at 04:26 PM. Reason: typos, my dear typos

  4. #114
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    Midnight Falcon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Halivel View Post
    Welp, it actually would. Not to the point "impossible to play" of course, but along with all the types of metals, branches and meat there are just as much different types of armor, potions and food that are crafted from these materials. Bronze Cuirass and Mythrill Cuirass created from same "versatile ingot" (how even) or Branch Staff created from Log (why doing the whole log if you could cut just one good branch) would look weird, logically and chemistry wise, considering that up to now we have quite realistic craft system (there's even a whole youtube channel where girl recreates FF14's food based on in-game recipes).

    That said, if they will ever decide to remove some "potentionally connectable" materials, they probably will need to do some rework on items that are crafted from them too, to save the whole logic that exists in system now. Not impossible, but not very likely to happen I think. The theoretical analogue of glamour dresser but for materials seems to be more feasible.

    what about the few quests that already just give crafting material? It is already a generic place holder and no one complains about that. Also a lot of that gear, potions, and other things could also be removed. In a perfect world they would put more time into the Novice program and give gear like aetheryte earring and make those recipes just glamour like pvp sets. No more undergeared people from 1-70. We would also know that they at least took the training program as well.
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    Last edited by Moonlite; 04-02-2020 at 09:49 PM.

  5. #115
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    Quote Originally Posted by splinter1545 View Post
    Never gonna happen. Remember, this game is full of limitations that somehow goes away when money is involved, and they make a good amount of money on extra retainers.
    We got a Saddlebag, even if only half of it is free and FC's got several extra Chest tabs. They will weigh up whether a feature would add positively to players gaming experience and considering the huge push for casual players to get into crafting and the Ishgard restoration, along with all the new and associated materials, it's quite possible they decide it's time for more inventory space.

    But we need to leave feedback, instead of attacking hoarders for being lazy or Enix for being greedy or whatever. It's as simple as saying "I'd absolutely love another retainer" or "I'm fine with two, focus on other things", respecting others opinions and letting Enix decide from there.
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  6. #116
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    We got a Saddlebag, even if only half of it is free and FC's got several extra Chest tabs. They will weigh up whether a feature would add positively to players gaming experience and considering the huge push for casual players to get into crafting and the Ishgard restoration, along with all the new and associated materials, it's quite possible they decide it's time for more inventory space.

    But we need to leave feedback, instead of attacking hoarders for being lazy or Enix for being greedy or whatever. It's as simple as saying "I'd absolutely love another retainer" or "I'm fine with two, focus on other things", respecting others opinions and letting Enix decide from there.
    You mean 1 extra tab?
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  7. #117
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    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterJoints View Post
    You mean 1 extra tab?
    It’s 2 tabs; one at rank 10, one at 15 (total of 5 tabs, from what was formerly 3 max)
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  8. #118
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    Barraind Faylestar
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    So everyone should be in Fc's of 1? Or are we going to count that as like, 1 inventory space per person?

    Cause those spaces basically let FC's put things into the Fc bank that otherwise had to be held on someones retainer, given that we have even more things generated from and only usable by FC's too.

    The best part is that you still cant store the finished grade 3 buffs in the FC chest, so they still take retainer space.
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    Last edited by Barraind; 04-03-2020 at 02:51 AM.

  9. #119
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    Th'mas Stormwalker
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    Problem == opportunity. Introduce end-game crafter workshop items (like the old ones but actually useful at end-game). For example Goldsmith workbench that includes space to store mats used in Goldsmith recipes (only). Make the items market place prohibited - if you want it you have to make it for yourself (as any master crafter should). Do this for each of the crafting classes. Real world crafter's love their workshops - why should virtual ones be any different. In the future this could be expanded to not just mats storage, it could include things a trophy case where you can keep some of your finest instead of having to desynth it to free space in your inventory.
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  10. #120
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    Caitlin Seraphim
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    Shiva
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    To all the people that claim money makes problems go away this comment i made before in another thread.

    Lets say there are 100 000 characters on a server. 10% pay for 2 extra retainers which makes 20 000 extra retainers to store on that server.
    Compare that to everyone getting an extra free retainer which comes to 100 000 extra retainers to store or 5 times as much information.

    Thats why they can give us paid spaces and not free as I see it.
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