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    Esmoire's Avatar
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    Mei Coincounter
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    Ultros
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    Goldsmith Lv 100
    Yeah. Unfortunately I can't feel sympathetic for their limitations when they make a lot of really bad decisions for how they operate in their constraints. It's amazing how, for example, a metal can become an ingot, nugget, rivet, plate, etc, when really only only 2 forms are necessary. Also a lot of random ass bugs and stuff you can gather for one recipe that no one cares about. Of course, as a player, we just throw out the stuff that's pointless, but it's still problematic. It's heaped upon all the other stuff FFXIV has new players have to process, and it's getting in the way of them doing some kind of more elegant system. Like, if we could keep crafting mats under 40 for ARR, under 30 for HW and SB, some kind of dedicated crafting inventory would be much more feasible. Instead they just keep applying bandaids that cost them more in the end.
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    Barraind Faylestar
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    If i am remembering wrong the DoL leves have their own item to collect when leve starts
    DoL leves, yes. the quest turnins at those levels are actual mats.

    DoH leves at those levels are a whole bunch of stuff you'll never make otherwise, and have some overlap with GC turnins.
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    splinter1545's Avatar
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    Edco Bane
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    Ultros
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    Bard Lv 90
    Never gonna happen. Remember, this game is full of limitations that somehow goes away when money is involved, and they make a good amount of money on extra retainers.
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    Liam Harper
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    Quote Originally Posted by splinter1545 View Post
    Never gonna happen. Remember, this game is full of limitations that somehow goes away when money is involved, and they make a good amount of money on extra retainers.
    We got a Saddlebag, even if only half of it is free and FC's got several extra Chest tabs. They will weigh up whether a feature would add positively to players gaming experience and considering the huge push for casual players to get into crafting and the Ishgard restoration, along with all the new and associated materials, it's quite possible they decide it's time for more inventory space.

    But we need to leave feedback, instead of attacking hoarders for being lazy or Enix for being greedy or whatever. It's as simple as saying "I'd absolutely love another retainer" or "I'm fine with two, focus on other things", respecting others opinions and letting Enix decide from there.
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    Lunafreya Valentine
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    Jenova
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    Fisher Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    We got a Saddlebag, even if only half of it is free and FC's got several extra Chest tabs. They will weigh up whether a feature would add positively to players gaming experience and considering the huge push for casual players to get into crafting and the Ishgard restoration, along with all the new and associated materials, it's quite possible they decide it's time for more inventory space.

    But we need to leave feedback, instead of attacking hoarders for being lazy or Enix for being greedy or whatever. It's as simple as saying "I'd absolutely love another retainer" or "I'm fine with two, focus on other things", respecting others opinions and letting Enix decide from there.
    You mean 1 extra tab?
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    Kris Goldenshield
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    Tonberry
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    Gladiator Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterJoints View Post
    You mean 1 extra tab?
    It’s 2 tabs; one at rank 10, one at 15 (total of 5 tabs, from what was formerly 3 max)
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    Barraind Faylestar
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    Coeurl
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    Paladin Lv 90
    So everyone should be in Fc's of 1? Or are we going to count that as like, 1 inventory space per person?

    Cause those spaces basically let FC's put things into the Fc bank that otherwise had to be held on someones retainer, given that we have even more things generated from and only usable by FC's too.

    The best part is that you still cant store the finished grade 3 buffs in the FC chest, so they still take retainer space.
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    Last edited by Barraind; 04-03-2020 at 02:51 AM.

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    Th'mas Stormwalker
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    Famfrit
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    Bard Lv 90
    Problem == opportunity. Introduce end-game crafter workshop items (like the old ones but actually useful at end-game). For example Goldsmith workbench that includes space to store mats used in Goldsmith recipes (only). Make the items market place prohibited - if you want it you have to make it for yourself (as any master crafter should). Do this for each of the crafting classes. Real world crafter's love their workshops - why should virtual ones be any different. In the future this could be expanded to not just mats storage, it could include things a trophy case where you can keep some of your finest instead of having to desynth it to free space in your inventory.
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    Caitlin Seraphim
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    Shiva
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    Archer Lv 100
    To all the people that claim money makes problems go away this comment i made before in another thread.

    Lets say there are 100 000 characters on a server. 10% pay for 2 extra retainers which makes 20 000 extra retainers to store on that server.
    Compare that to everyone getting an extra free retainer which comes to 100 000 extra retainers to store or 5 times as much information.

    Thats why they can give us paid spaces and not free as I see it.
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    Light Khah
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    Moogle
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    Arcanist Lv 91
    So we should believe that if theoretically we all would buy at least one retainer the server would explode?

    It is funny that they cant give us much more free space but are able to pump out new retainers or more space for the sattle bags for money. They needed to make sure that if a lot of people would buy them that the server still runs fine so I doubt that its really a issue there..Unlike the housing wards which are active all the times I doubt that the retainer takes much space if they are not called.

    No I believe they simply dont give us more free space because why do that if we just can pay for it? Why give them a whole sattlebag if we can put half of it behind a paywall? They might make excuses (because admitting that they are only doing that to get more money would be bad) but we know from other examples that they might not be true..look how long they have said that we cant get more wards because that would be bad for the servers (good job creating something so inefficient) but suddenly as soon as the anger was high enough after Shirogane savage they were able to double the amount of wards in every single housing district..what a surprise...
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