Quote Originally Posted by SamRF View Post
It has been several times mentioned that it only makes sense what SE is doing with the Cash Shop and that we aren't entitled to anything by paying for the sub and how this thread always shows up when new items get added.

I've kind of said this earlier, but I doubt anybody is actually feeling entitled to get anything, but is instead simply giving feedback on how the game should be according to them if it is to meet their satisfaction.

SE wants to make the best business descisions and things they have to take into consideration for making the right descisions is player satisfaction. These threads and posts critical of Mog Station are players expressing their dissatisfaction which can be considered by SE as a sign to tone it down. If it won't be considered by SE anyway, then you can use that as your argument, but imo don't come with saying people are feeling too entitled for this or that or that the sub we pay is only meant for this or that and that we should be silent because it only makes "sense" that SE does this.

Thats the point though about complaining about it, changing what would make sense for SE by expressing dissatisfaction.

That's the point of feedback. Make counter argument against this feedback, give why you think Mog Station should exist but don't come talking about rights and entitlement or such cause it's completely beside the point (imo).
The issue is were not seeing feedback or critiques. Were seeing a lot of misplaced rage and demands and bad faith argumentation. Feedback and criticism require some thought and care. For example, Good feed back would be like this: "The recent changes to the bard class dont work and are resulting in x, y, and z". X, Y, and Z are things we can track to a fairly decent degree. Things like DPS output, ease of play, synergy with other classes, etc. Therye more concrete and things we can address and change. They also dont resort to name calling or impuning the character of the Devs or SE. Theyre not calling SE evil P.o.S cause they made changes to bard. It's understood that SE is attempting to fix or address a balance issue and that it may not have came out the way it was hoped. Devs are human afterall. This is feedback, and proper critiquing.

This is what were seeing "Oh My god! How dare SE and the devs put crap on the Mogstation! I should get it for free. I deserve it cause I pay a sub. This is them being greedy as F and trying to take my money from me! Screw this! They should immediately change mogstation and give me that mount. Just Horrible that they want to charge money for this. Greed jerks!"

That isnt feedback. That isnt critiquing. While it is voicing a person's dissatisfaction with something, its done in the worst way possible and makes no effort to udnerstand SEs position and resorts to name calling and placing hte worst possible characterization on SE, and demands a solution that is purely for the benefit of the person speaking. That isnt a critique. its a rant. Its a outpouring of vitriol and anger. And its entitlement based on the conclusion that the person Deserves something more for simply being a standard paying customer.

You want to seriously discuss pricing and what shows up on mogstation, thats fine. But it requires a reasonable position as well as understanding and debating counter points. If people just clutch to "My opinion and point is the only correct one and if you disagree, youre just licking SEs boot", well that's not gonna fly with a lot of people and wont solve a damn thing. SE should ignore anyone who comes in here raving about "They deserve x, y, or z from the mogstation cause they have a sub." because it isnt feedback.