Switching jobs while in a duty

[Razard]

I mean people usually don't even say anything when PUG healer refuses to dps for example (which can easily be seen by everyone and is obviously not meta play). How would they force people? Threatening with kicks? Also not sure what you mean with "not invited", does this mean they will kick you if you don't have those 2 jobs leveled? Do you really see people doing this in FFXIV right now over something like that?

Yes. Yes I do.

Healers who don't dps? What are you blithering about? It's cause fights aren't built with healer dps in mind maybe? Although thanks for bringing that up as I can add that to the "stuff you don't have to do but is enforced by the playerbase". Thereby successfully proving my point. You don't have to dps as a healer, just like you won't have to change classes under this new theoretical system. Buuuut it will make the run 10 seconds faster so hands tied I guess.

You overestimate people's capacity for understanding. Currently the only thing stopping people from kicking people left and right is the classes being balanced enough so that time you lose kicking and waiting for a new person isn't worth it.

And once again this system is detrimental to people who do not multiclass. That's even before we get into the gearing issue.

[SamRF]

Yes. Yes I do.

Healers who don't dps? What are you blithering about? It's cause fights aren't built with healer dps in mind maybe? Although thanks for bringing that up as I can add that to the "stuff you don't have to do but is enforced by the playerbase". Thereby successfully proving my point. You don't have to dps as a healer, just like you won't have to change classes under this new theoretical system. Buuuut it will make the run 10 seconds faster so hands tied I guess.

You overestimate people's capacity for understanding. Currently the only thing stopping people from kicking people left and right is the classes being balanced enough so that time you lose kicking and waiting for a new person isn't worth it.

And once again this system is detrimental to people who do not multiclass. That's even before we get into the gearing issue.

So encounters are designed so healers have to stand still and do nothing for 80% of the fight? Even Trust NPC healers dps, they don't waste global cooldown. Not dpsing as healer clearly goes against this game's meta and is indeed kind of enforced by the playerbase, yet still you barely see anyone say anything when healer does refuse to dps. This would prove the point that PUG groups in this game don't care enough to force others into meta.

[LaylaTsarra]

So encounters are designed so healers have to stand still and do nothing for 80% of the fight? Even Trust NPC healers dps, they don't waste global cooldown. Not dpsing as healer clearly goes against this game's meta and is indeed kind of enforced by the playerbase, yet still you barely see anyone say anything when healer does refuse to dps. This would prove the point that PUG groups in this game don't care enough to force others into meta.

Very rare when a healer does not dps. On the contrary I see more healer's dps'ing at the expense of actually healing party members that need heals. Try again but that healer's don't dps line doesn't actually fly in game.