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    15 Glamour plates is not enough

    There are possibly already several threads complaining about this matter, but I feel the need to bring it up again:

    We don't have enough glamour plates.
    So the fundamental idea of glamour plates was initially, that jobs that share gear can have different glamours. This idea is nice and good, but with the amount of glamour plates we have right now, players who like to play every job cannot use it as intended.

    Currently we have 15 glamour plates and you might say "but the amount was already increased!", yes, but not enough. The problem is, that there are too many jobs that share gear. Those are:

    - All 4 tanks (+4 = 4 plates)
    - All 3 healers (+3 = 7 plates)
    - MNK and SAM (+2 = 9 plates)
    - All 3 ranged physical jobs (+3 = 12 plates)
    - All 3 caster jobs (+3 = 15 plates)
    - All 8 crafter jobs (+8 = 23 plates)
    - All 3 gatherer jobs (+3 = 26 plates)

    We have 15 plates now. Bottom line: We need at least 11 more plates, for people that want to glamour their crafters & gatherers differently.
    If there are more jobs coming out in 6.0 that amount has to be increased as well, if the new jobs share gear as well.
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    Yes. So much yes.

    There's not even enough plates for Jobs, nevermind DoL and DoH classes if all you want to do is use even a single piece of job specific armour on each.

    P.S. you forgot DRG, NIN and BLU. They each share some gear too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mhaeric View Post
    P.S. you forgot DRG, NIN and BLU. They each share some gear too.
    Uh, what? What gear does DRG share with any job? DRG doesn't share gear with any job. Also, the only gear NIN shares with any other job is ARR raid gear and BLU is always 20 levels behind (and can't wear caster endgame gear), so there is no reason that they require glamour plates. I repeat: The intention was, to enable jobs with endgame gear that share their gear to have different glamours, without having to re-glamour everything manually on every job change.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I'm pretty sure SE realises it's not enough. They've indicated that they want to give us more, but there is some kind of technical issue - most likely inventory data space.
    Did they? When did they? The last time I heard them talking about giving us more glamour plates was before Shadowbringers and since that increase there was no word about it anymore. Can you give me a source?

    Quote Originally Posted by Brightamethyst View Post
    While I understand there are technical issues preventing them from letting us walk around with unlimited plates all the time, I wonder if it would be possible to tie extra plates to the dresser itself. Cap the player at x number of plates like now, but let us store more in the dresser and allow us to swap them in and out. That would let us have more plates but not overload whatever system currently limits them.
    This is just a band-aid, but this would already help a LOT!
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    I'm pretty sure SE realises it's not enough. They've indicated that they want to give us more, but there is some kind of technical issue - most likely inventory data space.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I'm pretty sure SE realises it's not enough. They've indicated that they want to give us more, but there is some kind of technical issue - most likely inventory data space.



    (Playstation is the problem)



    Plus the game is built on old technology. We need a Glamour Book or something. SOmething we can apply anywhere. Other than a Glamour box or w/e lol Remove the limits!
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    Please don't blame the PlayStation when you don't actually know it is the problem.
    Also aside from the allocation of resources they probably don't have anyone available to code that or look into it. Instead of asking for something come up with a solution or accept what we have and make it work. Be happy that they gave this to us and enjoy it. Not every game can have something like this so try to understand what it is your Actually asking for before you ask for it. It's not easy to code something like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karatecatgrl View Post
    Please don't blame the PlayStation when you don't actually know it is the problem.
    Also aside from the allocation of resources they probably don't have anyone available to code that or look into it. Instead of asking for something come up with a solution or accept what we have and make it work. Be happy that they gave this to us and enjoy it. Not every game can have something like this so try to understand what it is your Actually asking for before you ask for it. It's not easy to code something like this.
    I don't think it works like that though. Yes something like that is difficult to code, but I don't think you can stop complaints and suggestions form popping up from people dissatisfied from the current system. After all people are still asking for Egi-glamours years after the initial tease. It's gonna take confirmation from the devs themselves, (something like "we are unable to add more with this system" rather than vague statements) to stop threads about the topic from popping up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Morningstar1337 View Post
    I don't think it works like that though. Yes something like that is difficult to code, but I don't think you can stop complaints and suggestions form popping up from people dissatisfied from the current system. After all people are still asking for Egi-glamours years after the initial tease. It's gonna take confirmation from the devs themselves, (something like "we are unable to add more with this system" rather than vague statements) to stop threads about the topic from popping up.
    I am sure even SE telling us that it isn't possible wont stop these threads from surfacing. lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karatecatgrl View Post
    Please don't blame the PlayStation when you don't actually know it is the problem.
    Also aside from the allocation of resources they probably don't have anyone available to code that or look into it. Instead of asking for something come up with a solution or accept what we have and make it work. Be happy that they gave this to us and enjoy it. Not every game can have something like this so try to understand what it is your Actually asking for before you ask for it. It's not easy to code something like this.
    That's a lot to unpack for such a short post.

    1: "PS2 limitations" was a favorite excuse for SE not adding things to FFXI for a REALLY long time, and then it turned out to not really be true later in the game's life. "PS3 limitations" were a STRONG reason for how segmented the game's zones are, so "Playstation limitations" seems like a valid check here.

    2: "Don't have anyone available to code..." I'm sorry but they've had months to figure this out at this point. This next patch was already delayed by months because of the pandemic. The pandemic is a thing, it's not really a great excuse now. Other companies (including other Japanese companies) found a way to make it work.

    3: "Instead of asking for something come up with a solution or accept what we have and make it work." are.. are you serious? What do you think the forums are for? This is feedback here. It's not even unreasonable feedback. SE already knows the glamour dresser is insufficient as it stands. This thread and other like it contain suggestions for how the system could be improved.

    4: "Be happy that they gave this to us and enjoy it." They gave us nothing. We pay for this. You pay for this. We all pay for this. None of this is charity. And btw, the glamour dresser existing AT ALL is because of feedback like this.

    5: "Not every game can have something like this so try to understand what it is your Actually asking for before you ask for it." I don't even know what this means. Games aren't slapped together from pre-fab parts or something. They're programmed. And computers, not being magic, can be programmed differently. No one is suggesting this is easy. We know they're working with spaghetti code left over from 1.0, especially in their inventory subsystem. Here's the thing about that: that's not our problem. That's not on the customers to solve, that's on them to solve. 1.0 was a long time ago, it's time to stop using it as an excuse for why they can't do things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    We know they're working with spaghetti code left over from 1.0, especially in their inventory subsystem. [...] 1.0 was a long time ago, it's time to stop using it as an excuse for why they can't do things.
    Maybe we need another calamity to reset the game lol. Give them another opportunity to update things under the hood like ARR sort of did.
    This game's about a decade old. Relaunch it into FF14-2 lol
    (I am not serious)
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