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    Pigaxe's Avatar
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    Lavos Soval
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    Why can't we sign multiple classes to duty finder?

    So so sorry for my teribul spelling misstakes im in a rush to get to work and whanted to ask this question before i get going. FYI i have dyslexia.

    This question might already be posted but i cant find it when i search for it(probebly due to my dyslexia). So if somone cold either point me to the right post or maybe explain it to me that wold be gratefull.

    As the titel sais, Why can't we sign multiple classes to duty finder? I love to tank, heal and to dps and when i sign for duty finder i first pop dps then whidraw then tank then healer and see wich is fastes and hope for the best really that a quick dungeon will pop. it feals so much more sufisent if i cold just tick a box saying wich classes i whant to play and then just signup and let it be wichever one hapens to be best for the rest of the players signing. I think the duty finder que wold go down dramaticly or am i wrong?

    Again sorry about the messy spelling and thanks!
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    Small indie company please understand.
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    2.0 Veteran from 2013. Just looking to be helpful. DRK is Love, DRK is life.

    (Ignore the levels on my character card, the tool i used to make it hasn't been updated for 4.0)

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    Quote Originally Posted by VenKitsune View Post
    Small indie company please understand.
    Its almost like some things aren't related to how much money a company has, and are tied to either manpower deficiencies, backend problems from a darker time, or simply not enough interest.

    But keep using your silly meme thing or w/e it is at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Its almost like some things aren't related to how much money a company has, and are tied to either manpower deficiencies, backend problems from a darker time, or simply not enough interest.

    But keep using your silly meme thing or w/e it is at this point.



    Your examples are either something that could have been fixed with money given the amount of time this game has been out. Or they just don't care about QoL improvements. Man I hope they are just greedy and not that they just don't care. Both are bad but one feels so much worse to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Its almost like some things aren't related to how much money a company has, and are tied to either manpower deficiencies, backend problems from a darker time, or simply not enough interest.

    But keep using your silly meme thing or w/e it is at this point.
    If they really had no money, then it would be harder to blame them. There's little a company can do to force itself to grow.

    But if they have a lot of money and are refusing to hire more manpower to treat manpower deficiencies, then that's completely on them.
    (In which case, they deserve the criticism!)
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    Quote Originally Posted by DumdogsWorld View Post
    If they really had no money, then it would be harder to blame them. There's little a company can do to force itself to grow.

    But if they have a lot of money and are refusing to hire more manpower to treat manpower deficiencies, then that's completely on them.
    (In which case, they deserve the criticism!)
    They aren't refusing to hire more people though, they are struggling to find people.

    Also, in response to the earlier response, backend stuff is incredibly hard to change once it's been implemented at this level. They had to make the game compatible with old 1.x assets and that probably led to a lot of messed up Jerry rigged code to make systems talk to each other.

    They'd likely have to halt patches for awhile to fix all the issues, but we already get complaint threads and backlash if stuff is delayed by a week or 2. There's no real feasible way to do this currently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    They aren't refusing to hire more people though, they are struggling to find people.
    Worldwide, there are programmers and people in other IT-related fields of work just sitting around twiddling their thumbs because it's difficult to find good work. Now people are saying that major game companies can't find enough people to work on their projects.

    That's a big disconnect, no matter how you look at it. Somewhere out there, somebody just isn't trying. Whether it's just Square Enix or some worldwide problem, I can't say.

    But if I'm expected to give sympathy to a company as big as Square Enix for using an engine infested with spaghetti code and unstaffing its development team, then sorry. No can do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    They aren't refusing to hire more people though, they are struggling to find people.

    Also, in response to the earlier response, backend stuff is incredibly hard to change once it's been implemented at this level. They had to make the game compatible with old 1.x assets and that probably led to a lot of messed up Jerry rigged code to make systems talk to each other.

    They'd likely have to halt patches for awhile to fix all the issues, but we already get complaint threads and backlash if stuff is delayed by a week or 2. There's no real feasible way to do this currently.

    In 2.0 I agreed with you, in 3.0 I wondered, in 4.0 I questioned, and in 5.0 it is obvious. You can honestly not believe by 5.0 they are struggling for staff. The team may be short staffed. They could have trained or poached enough staff by now. Some sort of disconnect between the company and the future employee's is happening. Money, workload, lack of ability to train, or whatever reason. The issue is clearly SE's fault and not the future workforce that you claim. I can not believe that this far into the games lifecycle. You honestly can't think it is the lack of employee's in the work pool by now?



    The backend stuff is probably a mess from some 1.X stuff. I agree with you a 100%. Retainers and MB's are on my list of 1.X things that need to be fixed but the way they probably put them in over the course of 1.X it ain't happening.
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    Likely tied to the current job you have locked in when signing up.
    Also, item level differences between different jobs can affect the queue, that's a additional technical hurdle they have to overcome.
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    We still can't move something in inventory while talking with npc or talk with NPC on mount. It's too difficult for them to implement, they made this game in a rush and from corpse of older game.
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