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  1. #11
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    DrWho2010's Avatar
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    Maximum Powerful
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    Hyperion
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    Summoner Lv 90
    If you're not raiding savage then it literally does not matter.
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  2. #12
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    I'shtola Maqa
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    Leviathan
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Since Stormblood really they have failed on blm and to some extent Red Mage weapons.
    It is like they had reversed the stats, giving Red Mage Spell Speed on the weapons.
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  3. #13
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    RocciaSolida's Avatar
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    Rock Solid'
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    Ragnarok
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Im pretty sure it's intended that way so you have to clear the savage tier if you want the BiS weapon
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  4. #14
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    Myon Miya
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    Tonberry
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    Reaper Lv 90
    I think you'll be surprised if you believe they control item stats to that degree, even to the point of taking into account what the 'metagame' looks like. They barely know more about their own jobs than we do, and it's not like they hang out in the Balance discord and go "Oh looks like black mage players figured out that spellspeed is a good stat, we should put it on the raid weapon".

    More likely they just have an algorithm that autofills each item with 2 of the possible substats, and ensure there aren't any duplicates at the same ilvl (e.g normal and crafted gear). They know no more about the fact that blm is the 'spellspeed' caster than they do about rdm and smn hating spellspeed. It's just random whether you get lucky with itemization some tiers or not.

    Fun fact: Their algorithm goofed in Sigmascape and made the upgraded tome and raid weapon have the same weapon damage for some jobs. This was because the ilvl=wd table they used so happened to not have a step at that value. They had to fix it manually, see: https://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...6d290a6e0a20fe

    Fun fact #2: Back in the last tier of Heavensward, the aiming bis was fortunate enough to have practically 0 skillspeed (which made the ranged jobs very happy). That only exacerbated the dominance of the ranged jobs at that time. In that same tier, summoner had a det + spellspeed book, the worst possible combination for them, and they just had to deal with it. While these factors are not huge, they influence the potential of each job at bis in that respective tier, and it can make balance look worse (or better) than it actually is depending on which jobs get lucky.
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    Last edited by Myon88; 03-26-2020 at 10:33 PM.

  5. #15
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    Nemekh's Avatar
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    Nemekh Kinryuu
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    Odin
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    Summoner Lv 90
    I do wonder how much they have been calibrating things of late though. I guess we'll see based on whether the final RDM/SMN weapons still remain Crit + x where x is not Speed.
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  6. #16
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    Fransisco Acutus
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    Ultros
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    I agree with Myron88, this isn't as intentional as everything thinks. WHM has peity on their raid weapon
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  7. #17
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    WhM has piety on every weapon this tier, which does feel like an intentional (and frustrating) push towards that stat.

    That said, BLM has a nice chunk of SpSpe on both the crafted and Ruby weapon, so the lack of it on the tome weapon probably wasn't intentional. And SpSpe really isn't ahead enough to make a noticeable difference and can even be melded if you want a set amount for your rotation that badly, unlike Piety which is 100% a dead stat in most cases.
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  8. #18
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    Wilhelm Fistman
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    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Kabooa View Post
    ...The people who want to kill the content?
    if you cant clear content because you're missing 400sps, then you have a bigger problem than missing a tiny amount of stats
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  9. #19
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    Gruntler's Avatar
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    Kawaiian Punch
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    Faerie
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Liam_Harper View Post
    WhM has piety on every weapon this tier, which does feel like an intentional (and frustrating) push towards that stat.
    Every healer has piety on every weapon this tier, as far as im aware.
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  10. #20
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    Waliel Hla
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    Cerberus
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Opheila View Post
    I really dont understand why the tomestone weapon exist, for casual player/s the extreme weapon will be nice too (to be honest saw too many 430 weapon in expert stuff)
    For us slowpokes who are still learning Shiva.
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