Weird Enmity Issues

[Arivess]

I am currently leveling Conjurer, duoing with a friend who's leveling Gladiator. I've had a few weird instances where I did practically nothing, and he could not pull hate off of me no matter what. The first time it happened, we thought it was an isolated glitch, and didn't think about it again. But something possibly similar happened today.

What happened last time was:
My friend and I were doing leves in Cassiopeia Hollows. It was one of the Necrologos ones, with goats as unexpected enemies and the final mobs being a squirrel and two antelopes. The Boughs Above, I think? Anyway, GLA friend was tanking the three enemies, I grabbed the squirrel, and suddenly both that and one of the antelopes started attacking me. We killed the squirrel, but nothing he did could get even the slightest bit of enmity from the antelope - the enmity gauge was still green on his screen even after using <i>all</i> his hate control tools.

Today:
My friend and I did three defense point leves at Bald Knoll today. Regardless of whichever of us started the leve, the monsters would always go for me exclusively, even though he has excellent +enmity gear, and I am generally careful not to draw too much hate. The strangest occurrence was for one of them, it started with a mongrel, which we took, and then four sheep. As soon as I attacked one sheep, <i>all four</i> swarmed me and killed me. The aethryte was near, so I returned, and came back. By then, there were two mongrels as well as the sheep. I stood around, without acting, and they swarmed me again. I returned again, stood around without doing anything at all, and they killed me again. I'm pretty sure hate was supposed to reset upon death, and anyway, my friend's been attacking them this whole time, so he should have way more enmity than me regardless.

A bit wordy, but basically:
I am leveling CNJ, duoing with friend who's playing GLA. A few times, leve mobs aggroed me even when I'm <i>not</i> doing anything, and nothing my friend can do can even gain the slightest bit of enmity. He wears +enmity gear (I think something around +15); I don't use enmity gear since we only duo, so I just have +macc and +eva.

[Kayle]

I've had the same issue on my Paladin. I've got Enmity +43. And in the Archer AF Body fight the day after Server merges, someone could walk by the mob I had and it would turn green and walk away. They didn't even have to do anything, just walk past. The same thing happened in the Moogle Primal fight last night. Any of the Non-Gladiator Moogles would drop to green instantly and attack someone else, even directly after a Provoke, or a Flash.

[Arivess]

Yeah, that pretty much seemed like what happened to us. My friend would have the mobs, and I'd walk a bit closer, and they'd be on me in a flash, no matter what he did. Our issue in Cassiopeia Hollows was before the merge, but after the accessories update, so maybe the new accessories are wonky in certain situations? We've never had this issue before, on the same classes, and I know he got himself a lot of new +enmity accessories.

[Skirata]

Greetings Arivess,

Thank you very much for posting your concerns about the enemies all going after you in battle despite the lower amount of action taken on these monsters. In order to best assist you with this issue we will be needing some additional information. While some of this information may seem irrelevant, it is best to have as much information as possible in these cases. Once this is filled out we will submit this for review for you.


ISP:
Type of Internet Connection:
Internet Connection Speed:
Date & Time:
Frequency:
Character Name:
Race:
World:
Class/Skill Rank:
Area and Coordinates:
Party or Solo:
NPC Name:
Monster Name:
In-Game Time:
Steps:
1.
2.
3.
<*Add more steps if necessary.>

Also if you do remember, what spells/abilities that you had used on the monsters in these cases ( e.g. the Antelope and Sheep).

[Deltara]

This happened to me in the BRD body fight two nights ago. I flashed all the mobs and they chased after me for 3 seconds then they sight-agged other ppl in my party. We had the same issues in moogle fight too.

[Falcus]

Just a heads up but +15 enmity is worthless (especially considering some skills generate up to 2k enmity)
What exactly were you doing that would generate enmity? What actions etc.

Some mobs also have hate reset moves if you didn't know (one of them in the final BRD quest does as far as I remember)
Also that's how mog fight is supposed to work. Some will stop attacking someone to go attack someone else. This is why you need to bind/kite some. It isn't because you generated massive enmity but because that's how the fight works.

I'm not sure on your problem in cass hollow though. Unless if you go into detail into what skills were being used I can't determine whether you're just generating more enmity than the tank or if it's genuinely bugged. Right now it looks more like bad hate management but that's only because I've never ran across this problem (apart from where it's programmed into the fight like mog, buffalo, several final job quests etc)

[prymortal]

Just had this probliem in cutters cry was using "shroud of saints" mostly to, which tempory drops emity by half.
tank attacked bosses attacked me even before i cast. then using shroud of saints cast on party & get attacked again & even with tank attacking & taunting they dont stop attacking till i'm k.o'd happened to 2 of us.

ISP: telstraclear
Type of Internet Connection: cable
Internet Connection Speed: 17.6mb download, 2.9mb upload, ping 200ms
Date & Time: 5/4/12 cant remember time. (utc +12)
Frequency: Often
Character Name: Damien Ramirez
Race: Hyur
World: Belmung
Class/Skill Rank: White Mage
Area and Coordinates: Cutters cry
Party or Solo: Party
NPC Name:
Monster Name: ALL ~ mainly bosses
In-Game Time: dunno

[Arivess]

Falcus -- Thanks for trying to help!

Thing is, we're not really bothering too much with hate management to begin with because it's just the two of us, so generally, either he just tries to tank it for as long as it stays, because by the time it finally aggros me, it's just about dead anyway, or I get my him to hold the mobs while I pick them off one by one. I'm used to things attacking me, but what's weird about the incidents I'm reporting is things I haven't taken any action against were attacking me exclusively. It's not so much he couldn't keep hate, it was the mobs were acting like he didn't exist even when I wasn't doing anything and he was using all his hate control abilities. Plus, it's not like we haven't done those leves before or after that, and it's never happened at any other time, which is why I think it was some kind of glitch.

Skirata -- Thank you for your reply! As best as I can remember--

ISP: Rogers
Type of Internet Connection: Cable
Internet Connection Speed: ping 42ms, download 7.5 mbps, upload 0.5 mbps

First incident:

Date & Time: Don't remember for the first one, was after the jobs update but before the world merge
Frequency: Once (this time)
Character Name: Moonshade Butterfly
Race: Miqo'te
World: Kashuan
Class/Skill Rank: Conjurer, around lv 27-28
Area and Coordinates: Cassiopeia Hollows...um. Dunno coordinates.
Party or Solo: Party (duo)
NPC Name: N/A
Monster Name: Can't remember, antelope and squirrel from Necrologos: The Boughs Above
In-Game Time: Dunno
Steps:
1. We did Necrologos: The Boughs Above. Friend (GLA) was the one who started the leve.
2. Friend stayed in active mode, I stayed in passive to examine the... shiny bits on the ground.
3. Naturally, enemies automatically aggroed me upon popping, and friend would use Rampart, Flash, and Provoke to get hate. When there are multiple enemies and I can't see which one he's attacking, I would attack the one with damage on it with the assumption that that's the one he's currently fighting (and thus is safe for me).
4. We had one Necrologos page left, and one shiny point of light left, so I buffed up (protect + stoneskin on I think both, done individually).
5. Popped the mobs, one squirrel and two antelopes, and as usual, they swarmed me first, and then friend pulled all three away.
6. I waited a little bit for him to build a bit of hate, and then attacked the squirrel because it was damaged.
7. Turns out it was my mistake, and he was fighting one of the antelopes (let's say antelope #1?), and squirrel was just hit by an AoE. I fought the squirrel anyway, since I figured I can take one mob fine.
8. Spell-wise, I used Stone, Aero, and Thunder to figure out which one(s) did the most damage. I've a fairly bad memory, so I have no idea which ones did, but this is my general practice for most fights, and then I would alternate between the two that did the most damage.
9. Ability-wise, I used Blissful Mind whenever it was available to refill my MP, and activated it to charge whenever the recast timer ran out. I would use Necrogenesis and/or Second Wind to refill the HP I lost from that.
10. Towards the end of the squirrel fight, I noticed my HP was dropping very quickly. I actually totally didn't notice until then that antelope #2 was attacking me. Friend told me it did that near the start of the battle already, when I attacked the squirrel.
11. I finished off the squirrel, and spent the rest of the time trying to keep myself alive.
12. I attacked the antelope (antelope #2) maybe once or twice near the start, before friend finished up with antelope #1. Can't remember the spell used, but likely either stone or aero, whichever worked well on the squirrel earlier.
13. Friend finished antelope #1, and started attacking antelope #2 (the one that was attacking me). He used Flash, Provoke, and whatever else he had (I have no idea?).
14. I stopped attacking and tried to survive while generating as little enmity as I could. Plus I was very low on MP at that point. I used Second wind when it was available, but aside from that, just used Cure on myself when it was absolutely necessary. Friend tried to use Cure on me as well.
15. We finished the battle, and friend told me the enmity gauge on the antelope never once even budged from green, no matter what he threw at it.

Second incident:

Date & Time: April 1, 2012, a few hours before I made the post up there
Frequency: Twice (this time)
Character Name: Moonshade Butterfly
Race: Miqo'te
World: Hyperion
Class/Skill Rank: Conjurer, lv 39
Area and Coordinates: Bald Knoll, very close to the Aethryte camp
Party or Solo: Party (2 people)
NPC Name: N/A
Monster Name: Dirty Mongrel (x2 I think), and... something Ewe? (x4)
In-Game Time: No idea
Steps:
1. Defense leve! Can't remember exactly which one. This one I think I started.
2. Near the defense point, I buffed us (Protect, and Sacred Prism + Stoneskin)
3. We went to the defense point, a Dirty Mongrel popped, and friend grabbed it. And then it saw me and changed its mind and started attacking me (before I even attacked). I didn't think much of it at this point and we took it easily.
4. We rebuffed (again, Protect and Sacred Prism + Stoneskin) after the battle and rested up.
5. Next, 4 ewes popped. I think these initially went to me, but friend grabbed them? Can't remember. I do remember they were all attacking him near the start already.
6. I attacked one that had damage on it, since there were so many I couldn't tell which one friend was grabbing. Again, I used my normal method of trying out Stone, Aero, and Thunder to find out which one(s) did the most.
7. Suddenly, all 4 ewes started attacking me, even the one my friend should have had lots and lots of enmity on. I stopped attacking and tried to wait for my friend to grab hate back, except same thing as before happened, they pretty much completely ignored him.
8. I died and returned. Since camp was so close, I decided to run back right away so I can at least help support and get exp.
9. By the time I got back to the battle, there were still 3-4 ewes, and plus 2 mongrels. I cast Cure on him once and stood back. Suddenly, the mongrels all attacked me and then the sheep followed. And then I died again.
10. Returned, came back again. This time, I did not take any action at all. I just stood there. And then suddenly, everything turned away from my friend and attacked me. And killed me again.
11. I returned again, and stood farther off, and then the defense duration ran out and the leve ended.

There was another defense leve that had something similar where things were completely ignoring my GLA friend to attack me, but they didn't live long enough for me to really find out, for that one.

[Skirata]

Greetings again Arivness,

Thank you for responding with the information that I had requested previously. I have made sure to submit all of your information to the development team, and they will thoroughly investigate this matter, based on your report. Unfortunately, I cannot guarantee that a direct response will be posted on this thread, but I do recommend checking Here or Here for any details regarding the development team's investigation. Thanks again for your report!