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    Quote Originally Posted by Malmstrom View Post
    The unfortunate truth is that if you are cutting it so tightly that 1-2 weeks of no pay is going to impact you that harshly, you should probably work more on your budgeting and saving skills and less on your video game house decorating skills.
    Oh please tell me, you are not living in the US and saying this crap.
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    So many people here seem to forget you tend to not get paid when you're not working.

    Makes me wonder if these people pay for their own subs. Or even their own living expenses. Clearly they forget you need to work to get money, and you need money to play this game.

    Sure some countries are providing assistance, but many are not or cannot.
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    This is one of the most valid cases for stopping the timer because it's impacting the entire world and its economy. People who are getting their bills paid by someone else or get to work from home should take a moment to empathize with people who chose a different kind of job or lost their own business. It would also be unfortunate if the ones running society right now lost their in-game houses just because they got infected at work and had to be hospitalized.
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    this pandemic is affecting all of us
    If you live in the US, or any country that isnt Italy or China, you're still more likely to be killed by inner city gang violence as an accidental bystander than you are at risk of mortality from any known coronavirus, to put the panic in perspective.

    Its the equivalent of "I know people who smoke, please suspend timers", only that will kill more people over any time period.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barraind View Post
    If you live in the US, or any country that isnt Italy or China, you're still more likely to be killed by inner city gang violence as an accidental bystander than you are at risk of mortality from any known coronavirus, to put the panic in perspective.

    Its the equivalent of "I know people who smoke, please suspend timers", only that will kill more people over any time period.
    And we all hope that the situation in other countries won't end up like in Italy or China, right? That's exactly the reason why the governments have to take action now, why they are closing schools and businesses. To get the virus to stop spreading. They don't do it for fun or to get the people to panic without any reason. They do it to keep the worst from happening. This results in the losses of income and jobs...but it has to be done to safe lives.

    I really don't get why some people still can't understand that and try to downplay the situation...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aniise View Post
    I really don't get why some people still can't understand that and try to downplay the situation...
    "Things are fine for me so I assume they're alright for everyone else"

    Probably.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barraind View Post
    If you live in the US, or any country that isnt Italy or China, you're still more likely to be killed by inner city gang violence as an accidental bystander than you are at risk of mortality from any known coronavirus, to put the panic in perspective.

    Its the equivalent of "I know people who smoke, please suspend timers", only that will kill more people over any time period.
    It's not the risk of death that is going to effect most people, it's losing their jobs and their income.
    Even in cases where the state is supplementing them, it's not going to be enough.
    Here in the UK the government are covering 80% of someones income, but that 80% is only going to cover essentials, rent mortgage and bills, most peoples expendable income is less than 10% of their wage.
    Then there's the self employed who will get even less.

    It costs SE nothing to suspend demolition.

    Fyi: I dont have a house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    It's not the risk of death that is going to effect most people, it's losing their jobs and their income.
    Even in cases where the state is supplementing them, it's not going to be enough.
    Here in the UK the government are covering 80% of someones income, but that 80% is only going to cover essentials, rent mortgage and bills, most peoples expendable income is less than 10% of their wage.
    Then there's the self employed who will get even less.

    It costs SE nothing to suspend demolition.

    Fyi: I dont have a house.
    Other posters have been right - those who are looking at financial problems due to business closures should be worrying about their real life homes and situations, not a virtual house in a video game. They should be analyzing their expenditures and cutting costs where necessary to get thru this period, then form better spending and saving habits for the future.

    If people are in as dire straights as some claim, they won't be returning to this game for months. They're going to be stuck paying off the debt they're accumulating. They won't have the money available to pay a sub.

    Those who are able to play shouldn't be locked out of the opportunity to own a house for the sake of people who won't be returning to play for a long time if ever.

    Yes, I have a house. I lost my first house due to real life back when SB was released. But you know what? Dealing with the real life stuff was more important so losing the house didn't matter. Once I came back to the game, I had to wait for the 4.2 wards to be added before I could own a house again. Not a big deal.

    I'm probably going to lose my house again later this year due to a new real life situation (not related to the pandemic). I'm not going to sweat it when it happens. I know when I'm able to return I'll eventually be able to get a house again and in the meantime, someone else who has wanted to own a house will have their chance.

    Get your life priorities straight people. If all you can think about is a house in a game, it's no wonder you're in real life financial trouble right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Other posters have been right - those who are looking at financial problems due to business closures should be worrying about their real life homes and situations, not a virtual house in a video game. They should be analyzing their expenditures and cutting costs where necessary to get thru this period, then form better spending and saving habits for the future.
    Okay, so let's get this straight; what about the times housing demolition was suspended due to earthquakes etc? I will take a wild guess and say that the people affected by this also had a lot more to worry about than their ingame houses....

    It's exactly BECAUSE there are other things to worry about that the demolition timer is halted in those cases. Because the people affected in those situations have more important things to think about. That is the whole reason they even do it at times like this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alleo View Post
    I mean if we use that argument then they should never suspend the housing timer because no matter what happens the real life should always be more important thus people should just accept that they will lose their pixels. Yet they have used that more than enough (especially for their japanese servers..) when some things were going down...

    But I guess its easier to punish people that have done nothing wrong and take away their ingame house so that others have it (until they too lose it for something..) instead of being angry towards SE a huge compay that decided to not provide us with instanced houses..
    <-- This so much.

    Also guys, showing a little bit of empathy for others in situations like this would not hurt you. Really..if you are not affected at all by this situation, count yourself as extremely lucky, but don't forget about the people that are affected by the situation at hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MsMisato View Post
    I'm going to sound freaking mean, but honestly, if you have to worry about income a game needs to be your least priority at this point. A game isn't a necessity like rent, electricity, water, food. You should definitely sit down after this and plan a bit better for an emergency fund because you should be able to have an emergency fund for a minimum of 3 months flat that takes care of your necessities. If you think gaming is a necessity then budget and include the cost in your emergency fund going forward.

    If it gets to the point where the servers have to go down for extended periods of time due to COVID 19, then I am pretty sure they will let us know.
    Again, I'm sure people whose homes were destroyed by fires, earthquakes and hurricanes had far more important things to worry about too.
    They still suspended housing demolition.

    And it's specifically because gaming won't be their top priority, that they shouldn't be penalised for not being able to subscribe.

    It doesn't hurt to ask.
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