Community Petition: "Get out of Ul'dah"

[Enfarious]

i'm wondering how many people remember that we did have reasons to go to the other cities? it's funny to watch alot of people complain that their cities are dead after supporting the only reason i ever went to grid or limsa being removed.

do you remember recipes that needed guild or master support from the guilds?
do you remember having to go to the guild to purchase abilities?

these things forced people to go to other cities besides uldah, but everyone supported them being removed. don't act suprised now that you get what you asked for and it had unintended consequences.

i know i remember going to uldah and spending days there because guild support allowed me to complete higher level synths while grinding, but now that's been removed the whole reason to go there is gone.

outside of going to limsa or grid for farming i don't waste my time going there and a global shout isn't doing anything to change that.

Precisely why not being able to summon retainers outside your home city would be useful, course it'd only work if the wards were linked ...

^This. Global chat channels and linked wards, please. I want to be able to hang out in Gridania without feeling like I'm missing out.

This is the most common reason people IRL and IG huddle in masses, to feel they are a part of, to not be left out. Malls/theatres/parks are all empty these days because we have this freakish global communication ability that allows people to stay home and not find a way to the nearest gathering spot.

Some of the reasons:
Crafting
A lot of supplies are sold in town so we sit next to the seller to buy them. Additionally we need to sell our stuff to NPCs or put them up in wards or deal with our retainers... A lot easier if we are near them. This reflects the aspect that crafting is a 'city' event, which is why we are in the city.

This can be done in any city Ul'dah isn't the only one w/ npcs and wards. If you mean buying specific craft goods, then wouldn't it make more sense to be in the city with the guild your crafting for, or near the guilds in Ul'dah, in either case away from the mass of people around the adventurer's guild?

Sociable
A lot of us are sociable and just like to be able to see friends, and LSMates, and run around together, play, jump and cheer each other on. Or maybe that's just me ^.^;

This also can be done in any city Ul'dah isn't the only one where players can interact.

Transportation Hub
Ul'Dah is a good gathering point and natural hub to reach a fair bit of end game content. The same could be said for Gridania, but not as much for Limsa Lominsa (no Primal Battles, Dungeons (DH, DH2, CC) are near Limsa Lominsa). So it was a 50/50 between Ul'Dah and Gridania... and Ul'Dah is a lot easier to navigate than Gridania (both cities and outlying areas), so it won.

This on the other hand is basically nail on the head, for now. Except that airships/teles aren't exactly hard to do.

[Hayden]

Ul'dah is Jeuno, end of story. Everyone WANTS one central city...and until we get Ishgard or Sharalyan(unless its destroyed like lore suggests) Ul'dah is the one we choose. It's in the middle and has easy access to all areas. Sooooo maybe rather than tell everyone to get out of Ul'dah...SE finds a way to allow Ul'dah to HANDLE the people? Jeuno did fine...

[Scherwiz]

Look at the proximity of things in Ul'dah compared to the other two, everything is very close in Ul'dah. The MW are closest to the atheryte, which is close to the event NPC, which is close to leve counter... which is close to repair. They would have to make drastic changes to Ul'dah and the other two cities to make them on equal terms, and even then people would still go to Uldah because it is already established.

[Enfarious]

Jeuno and White gate we're both a mess, worst thing ever was to d/c in PJ in the last year, it could cause you to need 30 attempts to get back on because of the sheer volume of ppl that would congregate there. People don't need a place to stand and shout if they can do it from somewhere else, and since airships go to/from all cities Ul'dah isn't really a must.
Sadly we'll stay there like it or not because we can't /yell to all the cities, or sell effectively outside of Ul'dah.

New York is not the only massive city in the U.S. Ul'dah does not have to be the only massive one in this.
And wouldn't a better analog to Ul'Dah be maybe Pheonix?

[ValcKyard]

The only way you are going to get people out of uldah is by connecting th wards since everyone needs it period.

There is no great mystery to that .....

[Matsume]

Oh hello community, I've been wanting to talk to you about something. Why don't you take a seat. Comfortable? Good, then let's get started.

Get out of Ul'dah.

Seriously, get out now. You broke the inn. You broke the Wards. The streets are so crowded that looking for someone means run 10 steps, wait for 40 people to load, run 10 steps. My chat log is a constant stream of you saying you want to run AV or get some AF out of Darkhold.

/sh WELCOME TO JEUNO!!! ..um oh wait, this is about Ul'Dah...

I know, I know, I have fond memories of us all hanging out in Ul'dah together too. But let us be honest with each other here, it's causing problems. How will leaving Ul'dah fix those problems you ask? Good question community.

1. The Inn - Anyone think this is something other than an overcrowding issue? I mean every other town's inn has preformed just fine since being added.

pfff ...who need's that kind of logic.

2. Wards - I've noticed more of you putting up wares in LL and Grid (only because they can't summon them in Ul'dah). The problem here is none of you are buying wares in LL and Grid. How about we do both our selling and buying out of town? Also say your in the market to buy some HQ Karakul Fleece. 67 stacks up for sale and window only shows the 20 cheapest. Think your going to find it? Sure 7 stacks would still not be visible if we utilized all wards, but that's a lot better than 47.

Sure would be nice if all three citie state's market wards were linked with priority given to the 20 cheapest items IN THE STATE THAT YOU CHECK FROM followed by the 20 cheapest in the other two. But again, that's logical. We have no use for logic on the forums, you know that!

3. Crowding - So ok, we don't actually fix this. We just alleviate the problem some. Spreading out means that I can see people for 30 yalms around me instead of 10.

All the better to show off my sbligar...

4. Chat Spam - This is just a bad habit we have from back in the dark ages when it was a necessity. It seems like most of us didn't notice this, but the devs gave us this handy thing called /search to use instead of just /shout-ing things out. Why don't you use it? Durandal has 406 people logged on right now and only 5 people 1-50 have a flag up. About 1% of the people want to party? I have a feeling the real number is a bit higher than that. Moving out of Ul'dah will force to community to adopt /search to put together parties.

/sh WELCOME TO ULDAH!!!

There, I'm glad I got that off my chest. Anyway, I think I'll be heading to my hometown of Gridania. It's been fun, sorry about tossing that cinder-block through your kitchen window last night, it seemed like a good idea at the time. Oh, one more thing. I think someone broke your toilet last night.

huh? did you say something? Couldn't read it through all the chat spam...

[GinTama]

I agree with Cthulhu totally. People GET THE HELL OUT OF UL'DAH. Set your Retainer in the nation you started or where your company sits and sell your things there. And second use the damn SEARCH FUNCTION it makes LIFE EASIER.
Srsly use Search function. Dont you hate it going to ul'dah everytime, everytime, everytime you want a party?
Just klick on search then on your name top, set your status on search party, klick on your favourite classes
and put up a comment what kind of party you want.

[Matsume]

Won't happen.

Its like trying to get people out of New York City.

Everything is there, why the hell would I leave?

[Sortis]

We should have one of those fire drills were everyone calmly walks out to simulate an emergency... And then we shut the gates and lock everyone out!

I like this idea more lol

[StateAlchemist]

Only reason I check Grid/Limsa wards is to try and ninja buy items people post for 1 gil when attempting to safely transfer items from between characters. To whoever sold me that INT +20 materia...thanks. :3