Community Petition: "Get out of Ul'dah"

[Colino]

I can never understand why people whine when people talk in the /s or /shout manner. I generally chat and recruit this way as it's more personal and gets to people who may not be conciously thinking of doing ____ activity under a stringent search method.

Searching for party, bah.

Yeah I don't get that either... One of the major complaints I've heard from new players was that the game is really "quiet" because mostly everyone speaks just in LS chat and so other than party shouts and the random emote here and there they don't see much going on.

[DoctorMog]

Remind me how people gathering in Ul'dah is a bad thing?

Pretend its Jeuno like in FFXI.

If you don't like it, you don't have to be here.

And if your gripe is that the wards are full, kicking people out of the city isn't a fix.

How about add more wards, increase the number of retainers allowed per ward, add additional copies of some wards, (when battlecraft 1 fills, flow over into battlecraft 2)

Correct the issue at hand, not something unrelated. Don't try to spread players out to other cities as a fix for a full ward.

That's just ignorant.

Edit: if you can't handle shout spam, turn on your filters.

[illriginalized]

Won't happen.

Its like trying to get people out of New York City.

Everything is there, why the hell would I leave?

Exactly this. I was going to use NY as a reference as well. Each city needs to have something worth value in order to have a balanced population. Otherwise there's always going to be 1 central city.

Remind me how people gathering in Ul'dah is a bad thing?

Pretend its Jeuno like in FFXI.

If you don't like it, you don't have to be here.

And if your gripe is that the wards are full, kicking people out of the city isn't a fix.

How about add more wards, increase the number of retainers allowed per ward, add additional copies of some wards, (when battlecraft 1 fills, flow over into battlecraft 2)

Correct the issue at hand, not something unrelated. Don't try to spread players out to other cities as a fix for a full ward.

That's just ignorant.

Edit: if you can't handle shout spam, turn on your filters.

It's ok.. the answer is always 2.0

[darkstarpoet1]

it's ok when you leave it'll help the overall population in the city, but the majority of us will still be here when you return.

[GreyJorildyn]

I don't think it's a "bad thing", but there's a problem with it. We have these home cities we are supposed to feel attached to and yet, two of them are relatively deserted due to poor game design and lack of tools to enhance player interaction.

Jeuno had several areas, Ul'dah does not, and the lag seems to be collective. Just last night crafting in town had over 2s of input lag. Lately the wards and city have been crashing under the stress, sometimes a couple times a day. It wouldn't hurt to spread things out a bit.

Lots here talk about how they want open world this or that. That should includes cities, and there shouldn't be a central gathering hub imo. That said, I don't feel shouts are an appropriate way to recruit for parties. We only use it because it is the best way to reach the most amount of people based on basic features in the game. That reason is known to all and is in part why Ul'dah is crammed with players. If we had a global LFP channel to do this, it would reach everyone, and shouts could go back to their intended use (whatever that is. Flame wars perhaps? Lol).

I agree the limit on retainers per ward should be increased or removed. I think we've already heard dev comments concerning limitations on this one.

[Deltara]

I go to Gridania to get away from the constant shouts really. I need a place to escape the madness that is Ul'dah. Please no global chat channels. Oh my god the search function would be completely killed (if it can be called "alive" right now, that is)

[GreyJorildyn]

You can tune channels out and not see them. Just because you don't want them doesn't mean they will not vastly inprove the game's functionality for everyone.

Don't mistake my words for pushiness. I am for any feature that modernizes this game. I don't care how that gets done, as long as it does. Global chats and AH linking are just ways we "know" it can be done, but that doesn't cover all bases. You must admit it is the path of least resistance however, and it will never hurt you, only put another tool in your party-finding kit.

[Deltara]

If you ask me, SE needs to shut down all shout channels for a month. Then start them up again.

[Cthulhu]

Remind me how people gathering in Ul'dah is a bad thing?

Thought I did that in the OP but here goes.

Broken Inn

Market Congestion

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-this-area-...

Character Congestion

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...-empty-server.

Chat Spam - I'm giving up on this one as a key issue for me, because it isn't. I do use filters when appropriate (I in fact have one of my tabs dedicated to only /tells and Ul'dah shouts). I just threw this one is as another example of a problem caused from the crowding. It would just be nice reclaim that tab so dropping this.

Pretend its Jeuno like in FFXI.

I understand a need for a central hub city and not trying to debate that point. Even when Jeuno or White Gate were that hub in FFXI the original towns all had pretty healthy markets. This is more the point I was trying to make. Right now we have what borders on desolation in the LL and Grid markets.

If you don't like it, you don't have to be here.

I don't and I think I said I left.

How about add more wards, increase the number of retainers allowed per ward, add additional copies of some wards, (when battlecraft 1 fills, flow over into battlecraft 2)

Correct the issue at hand, not something unrelated. Don't try to spread players out to other cities as a fix for a full ward.

Those are all great suggestions and I hope SE knows which of those are possible to implement. What I am suggesting is something the community can do in the mean time to lessen the problem and help develop healthier starter towns. This corrects the issue at hand. It also corrects it without the devs having to do anything. I wan't the dev teams working to getting the incremental content patches out and working on 2.0 more than I want them tinkering with the wards and market search.

The point of my post wasn't to say "Throw people out of Ul'dah". I was just asking the community to change some of their habits to take stresses off of some of the in-game systems and maybe get a better gaming experience out of it.

[Sputnik]

they gotta give us ishgard sooner than 2013, cus we all know 2.0 will be delayed, dont buy into there bullsheet