Lack of leaderboard clarification affecting player's health

[Azurymber]

As the rewards and future iterations of the ishgard restoration leaderboard aren't clear, many players are sacrificing their general health and wellbeing to "compete" for a top rank. Many players are skipping sleep, exercise, and regular social activity to focus on this competition believing it to be a 1-time thing. This is regularly discussed in shout chats but is also pretty obvious by looking at people's scores.

With COVID-19 spreading around the world, creating a competitive system that leads to compromised immune systems probably isn't helpful.

It would be great if there could be some public clarification on how the rankings will work in the future, so players don't feel pressure to achieve a high rank immediately.

[Kuroka]

Also there should have been a kind of cap, its just not ok if some/many ppl no life until they literally got 500k points now, thats 500+ crafts even with only full expert crafts... no cap and unknown rewards, its a really bad combination for some ppl...

SE: Ultimate raiders, please prioritize your health
Also SE: Want that top 12 spot for Ishgard Restoration? Grind 24/7 for 9 days straight

This.

Edit also, why 12 spots?? its ff14 xD I'd get 10 but 12? xD

[Vnolan]

SE: Ultimate raiders, please prioritize your health
Also SE: Want that top 12 spot for Ishgard Restoration? Grind 24/7 for 9 days straight

[Moonlite]

The op seems a little weird. At least for me. MMOs generally promote and attract this this sort of behavior since UO. This feels like a more "X players can no life the game more then I can." complaint. Which is any timed exclusive in an MMO. Also a COVId worry throw in on top. They could just as easily say they are practicing self quarantine.



Some people were complaining that 500k achievement was to much. Multiple people break the 500k barrier in less then a week.

[hydralus]

Funnily enough, staying indoors pushing buttons for 12 hours a day may be the healthier choice at the moment.

[Azurymber]

The op seems a little weird. At least for me. MMOs generally promote and attract this this sort of behavior since UO. This feels like a more "X players can no life the game more then I can." complaint. Which is any timed exclusive in an MMO. Also a COVId worry throw in on top. They could just as easily say they are practicing self quarantine.

Some people were complaining that 500k achievement was to much. Multiple people break the 500k barrier in less then a week.

Most people have jobs. A lot of people (thinking this ranking is a 1-time thing) are staying up late to keep up their position, and then going to work half-tired.
That's likely killing their immune system and just generally unhealthy.
Other people who don't have a job just aren't sleeping some days, so they can pull ahead.

The issue here isn't a competition.
It's a competition with no information. Can you get the titles in the future? What's the reward? How often will it rerun? Do item scores carry over (e.g. can you hoard over a few weeks)? Etc.

It's basically artificial unnecessary scarcity.
And based on the -many- shouts from players, it's clearly affecting people's health.

[Doozer]

If you're one of those people that stays up for days to play FFXIV for some arbitrary award, that's not SE's fault. You have a problem that you need to resolve on your own. Maybe see a therapist. Demanding SE tells you every little detail about the game so you're not 'pressured' to play in an extremely unhealthy manner won't solve your problem; you'll just do it with some other aspect of the game instead. Maybe instead of taking away the trigger or thing you're addicted to, maybe work on the addiction itself. Playing so long it makes you sick isn't normal. Get some help.

[Moonlite]

Most people have jobs. A lot of people (thinking this ranking is a 1-time thing) are staying up late to keep up their position, and then going to work half-tired.
That's likely killing their immune system and just generally unhealthy.
Other people who don't have a job just aren't sleeping some days, so they can pull ahead.

The issue here isn't a competition.
It's a competition with no information. Can you get the titles in the future? What's the reward? How often will it rerun? Do item scores carry over (e.g. can you hoard over a few weeks)? Etc.

It's basically artificial unnecessary scarcity.
And based on the -many- shouts from players, it's clearly affecting people's health.

Could the vaunted SE communication better explained this aspect of the game instead of trying to sell you another item in a LL. A million times yes. The complaint I have a job an MMO is bad for my health. Players would camp mobs for hours to days. This is an MMO it rewards the "no life" lifestyle. The people who get world first or people who complete something in a week that is suppose to take three months. MMOs have certain tiers of players. Also glad to see the good old I have a job excuse on top of the COVID. If you are old enough to play this game you should be old enough to know when to stop. It is the same as any vice.

[Cincierta]

Remember when Pandemonium Warden was released in FFXI and a group of people were fighting him for 18 hours to the point of passing out? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

[SilverObi]

Remember when Pandemonium Warden was released in FFXI and a group of people were fighting him for 18 hours to the point of passing out? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Also remember when XI literally advised players to not forsake real life commitments, friends, and family? We didn't listen anyway lol

Grinders gonna grind and no-lifers gonna no-life, that's their choice and if it damages them in some way because they want their name on that shiny leaderboard then that is on them and them alone.