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  1. #11
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    Moonlite's Avatar
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    Midnight Falcon
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    I am a negative on the mobile retainer. But I would like retainer to vanish. They are a left over to some degree from 1.0 and not a good one. I would just like to see one interface for inventory like the FC chest. They can still charge for extra space, lets not kill the cash cow. Next rebuild the MB so it is separate and you post at the board or an NPC standing right next to it. Again if SE wants to tie extra slots to increase sub so be it. The player base likes giving them more money, lets just make it better. Finally move ventures into squadrons making squadrons more valuable. Or just keep retainer bell and we just use them for ventures.



    Anyone who thinks the system is good now. Doesn't have to check 60 to 120 MB listings to see how the price has moved and reprice. Or balanced inventory over a two retainers. Is this a pressing matter, not really. Would I like to see a quality of life improvement over NG+, yes please.
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  2. #12
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    Mansion Viscera
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    Louisoix
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlite View Post
    Anyone who thinks the system is good now. Doesn't have to check 60 to 120 MB listings to see how the price has moved and reprice. Or balanced inventory over a two retainers. Is this a pressing matter, not really. Would I like to see a quality of life improvement over NG+, yes please.
    Trying to sort stuff between inventory, retainers and saddle bag is just awful yeah. Without mobile bells, if I could right click on any item and "sent to XXX inventory" that's be a pretty good step.
    They could also review items actually. There is so much stuff next to useless as the years go by, which could do with consolidation. Trial / raid tokens should not eat an intetory slot. Fishing baits too. Dye should be a system on its own. If dungeons are going to throw up stuff in my face, then the Arsenal should have either more space or another way of sorting it... I'd like improvement in this regard, rethinking how things could get streamlined to relieve a bit of space.
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  3. #13
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    Gemina Lunarian
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    Siren
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    Quote Originally Posted by Backdrifter View Post
    I'd be happy if they'd just combine the bell and the market board. It would be nice to switch from my items being sold at the bell directly how such an item is being sold in the market.
    No can do. We interact with retainers for more reasons than just the marketboard. However, they could allow us to access our retainers from the MB. We just wouldn't have full access. Very similar to how mannequins are set up.
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  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansion View Post
    Trying to sort stuff between inventory, retainers and saddle bag is just awful yeah. Without mobile bells, if I could right click on any item and "sent to XXX inventory" that's be a pretty good step.
    They could also review items actually. There is so much stuff next to useless as the years go by, which could do with consolidation. Trial / raid tokens should not eat an intetory slot. Fishing baits too. Dye should be a system on its own. If dungeons are going to throw up stuff in my face, then the Arsenal should have either more space or another way of sorting it... I'd like improvement in this regard, rethinking how things could get streamlined to relieve a bit of space.

    All stuff that has been brought up before SE refuses to lower inventory bloat. They actually design around it and then when questioned it is always some sort of limitation. Beast tribe tokens used to sit in inventory. So instead of just making one token and making the items be rep based they were worried that someone would be able to buy a whole bunch of items from one tribe. No beast tribe item is so valuable they have to worry, and no the mats for ixal and moogles was just a way to slow down people from getting some gear. They also refuse to allow old mats to die meaning people would only have to hold new mats for one expansion. Or even just move most of that bloat to a simple vendor. Look at beetle glue made a big come back.



    We should also expect some sort of defense of this awesome system in a few posts.
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  5. #15
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    Backdrifter Geologist
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    Miner Lv 58
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    No can do.
    Yes, can do. And please do. I'm fine with them being seperate as long as I had the option to link to the market board from my items being sold to see how my current up-for-sale item is priced compared to what's currently being offered and what it has gone for in the past.
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  6. #16
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    It is bad idea.
    S/E should not recreate the same dumb mistake made by Blizzard with their mobile guild bank and laughable Garrison
    Retainer Bell / AH is what keeps the game looks alive.
    If everyone is comfortable with a mobile Retainer bell the cities will be ghost town.
    Blizzard did a lot of thing for the sake of player convenience but many of these are directly and indirectly causing MMORPG dying as a genre
    Which is why i said except for putting things on market board for sale. If that was really a reason than maybe they should remove athernets so the streets will also be more alive ..not just specific areas .that way everyone can just and have to walk around no teleport. Filling the streets and areas running around...making the world even more alive! lol

    They really don’t wanna make it convenient to where on top of all that we have to pay real money every month ...to get extra retainers...
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  7. #17
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by Divinemights View Post
    Blizzard did a lot of thing for the sake of player convenience but many of these are directly and indirectly causing MMORPG dying as a genre
    There is some people who think the contrary, that the mmorpg genre did become successful beyond all expectations, and continue to be so : https://www.reddit.com/r/MMORPG/comm...tead_of_dying/ The reasoning being that mmorpgs aren't like all the others types of games which you finish in a few hours before hoping on to the next one. Mmorpgs are supposed to be persistent worlds in which to live in, with nether ending updates, and if all the big ones continue to be successful to keep their players along, of course all new mmos will keep failing, leaving a false impression of "mmorpgs are dead".

    As for what the op is talking about, there is limitations when it comes to handle the items datas so that the servers can keep working correctly. For example SE already said that's why we can access the glamour dresser only in inn and squadron rooms, and not somewhere else like in every houses with a glamour dresser housing item. There would probably be huge problems of the same sort with giving players access to their retainers from somewhere else than the bells.
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  8. #18
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    Tessa Logrim
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    Tonberry
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    Astrologian Lv 80
    Sure, adding a search bar on the retainer inventory could be a plus.
    However i disagree with the portable retainer idea. I think it would break the immersion even more.
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  9. #19
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    Rintha Elenah
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    Balmung
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    Lancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Backdrifter View Post
    Yes, can do. And please do. I'm fine with them being seperate as long as I had the option to link to the market board from my items being sold to see how my current up-for-sale item is priced compared to what's currently being offered and what it has gone for in the past.
    Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're asking for, but you can already check the price of an item you're wanting to put on the market board. Click on the button in the top right corner of the window that's used to set the price.
    It'll also allow you to check the sale history of the item.
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  10. #20
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    I want to be able to do this from my retainer. If I need to adjust the price of an item that isn't selling, I currently have to walk to a MB to check the price, then walk back to my bell to change it.
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