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    They won't be ending FFXIV any time soon.

    Though, most likely the reason for it ending will be due to how annoying it'll get having to work with the spaghetti code and all the limitations it imposes on the devs.

    Even then, it'll probably continue on in a sort of maintenance mode, so long as people will play it.

    As for a new FF MMO, be it XIV-2 or otherwise... That will depend entirely on whether SE deems it potentially lucrative enough to sink the vast amounts of money that creating an MMO from scratch requires. Which, given how XIV 1.0 turned out, probably makes them a little more cautious about greenlighting MMO's.

    How likely they will consider it is hard to say, but they already run XIV under less than its potential because they want to earn maximum profits off it meaning that the devs have to be really critical about what they spend time and money on developing (Including spending their own free time, as was the case for the few Viera and Hrothgar glasses and stuff). Otherwise, if given free control and a higher portion of its earnings to spend, its possible that they could have a team (Or teams) working on rewriting the code in order to make "XIV-2" without having to completely start the game over from scratch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    They won't be ending FFXIV any time soon.

    Though, most likely the reason for it ending will be due to how annoying it'll get having to work with the spaghetti code and all the limitations it imposes on the devs.

    Even then, it'll probably continue on in a sort of maintenance mode, so long as people will play it.

    As for a new FF MMO, be it XIV-2 or otherwise... That will depend entirely on whether SE deems it potentially lucrative enough to sink the vast amounts of money that creating an MMO from scratch requires. Which, given how XIV 1.0 turned out, probably makes them a little more cautious about greenlighting MMO's.

    How likely they will consider it is hard to say, but they already run XIV under less than its potential because they want to earn maximum profits off it meaning that the devs have to be really critical about what they spend time and money on developing (Including spending their own free time, as was the case for the few Viera and Hrothgar glasses and stuff). Otherwise, if given free control and a higher portion of its earnings to spend, its possible that they could have a team (Or teams) working on rewriting the code in order to make "XIV-2" without having to completely start the game over from scratch.
    The game was rewritten from the ground up when ffxiv 2.0 launched. Stop with the spaghetti code garbage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reap00 View Post
    The game was rewritten from the ground up when ffxiv 2.0 launched. Stop with the spaghetti code garbage.
    No it wasn't lol.

    It was created based on the 1.0 systems. The devs have literally said that themselves.

    It's also the reason why various systems exist in the game, such as how combat functions, how the character creation functions, how inventory functions etc.

    Unless you believe it's possible to completely code an entire MMO from scratch in only a single year, which is laughable, when most games are in development for several years before release.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    No it wasn't lol.

    It was created based on the 1.0 systems. The devs have literally said that themselves.

    It's also the reason why various systems exist in the game, such as how combat functions, how the character creation functions, how inventory functions etc.

    Unless you believe it's possible to completely code an entire MMO from scratch in only a single year, which is laughable, when most games are in development for several years before release.
    Actually, you're wrong, they scrapped the old 1.0 engine (Crystal Tools) (and 1.0's code completely), and built ARR in an entirelly new engine based on FFXV's Luminous Engine, there is no old '1.0 code' in the game, the game does reuse certain assets like certain enemy and character models and gear/equipment, but they're rendered in the new engine and are not just copied and pasted into ARR. 1.0 character data is also transfered into ARR but that is simply little more than a database with a bunch of flags assigning values at character creation and is again, not 1.0 'code' copied into it.

    Being 'based' on 1.0's systems doesn't mean it reuses 1.0 code, that's just a myth that has reached silly meme status and annoys me everytime I see someone use it. It's one meme I wish would just die out already. ARR's limitations simply come by design, the game was designed in a hurry as a way of restoring trust with players and FF fans after 1.0's disasterous launch, and that meant having to skip or put aside certain 'fluff' aspects like glamour for later, in order to get the core systems of the game working properly and stable at launch (something 1.0 never had). Unfortunately this meant ARR was designed as a 'closed system' somewhat that has been difficult to adapt and upgrade as time has passed and the game has grown in popularity.

    Hence the work-arounds and compromises Yoshi and his team have had to use to implement requested features added later like glamour - he would implement stuff like a proper 'glamour book' system for instance if he could, but due to the aforementioned closed design, it's something that can not be done.
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    Aaaaannnd now I just had a mental image of Lahabrea walking into a store called Bodies R Us and trying on different humans.... >.<

    Lahabrea: hn too tall... tooo short.... Juuuuuust right.
    Venat was right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    most likely the reason for it ending will be due to how annoying it'll get having to work with the spaghetti code and all the limitations it imposes on the devs.
    They still program XI using a PS2 dev kit emulated on a PC. It still needs players to log in to PlayOnline.
    Yet they carry on.

    XIV can't be as bad as that.
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