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    It is not some kind of PVP, it is some kind of player versus "system" with some kind of Pay-to-win logic. There's... nothing to do with PVP (to be some kind of PVP, at least, it should be players vs players only and not player vs players vs FC thought the current system doesn't value any kind of merit or skill... just luck with time of connection and RNG.

    What I can notice is NA players are focused really much more on rivality and competition, than European players who are more QoL oriented. More I'm reading the forum, more it appears to me. We will never agree, that's cultural as it seems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldevern View Post
    It is not some kind of PVP, it is some kind of player versus "system" with some kind of Pay-to-win logic. There's... nothing to do with PVP (to be some kind of PVP, at least, it should be players vs players only and not player vs players vs FC thought the current system doesn't value any kind of merit or skill... just luck with time of connection and RNG.

    What I can notice is NA players are focused really much more on rivality and competition, than European players who are more QoL oriented. More I'm reading the forum, more it appears to me. We will never agree, that's cultural as it seems.
    FC's are owned by players and the players go to the plots to purchase them. You as a player are competing against other players to be the fastest to purchase a plot. It's PvP. You're entitled to not like it, but doesn't change it's nature.
    And the main component towards your ability to purchase one is time. It has some randomness and some "skill" related but those are both minor.
    If purchasing houses when no wards are added, you just need to spend a lot of time on placards, that's all there is to it. Yes there's a RNG component and some people can get lucky/unlucky but overall more time spent = higher chance of getting one.
    When wards and new housing areas release it's a measure of time skill and a bit of luck that come into play. People rehearse their movements for hours to leverage all movement abilities from their classes (that they spend hours leveling for those abilities sometimes), jumping from nin to brd etc... They place post-its on their screens to know exactly where to click in order to validate menu choices before they see them (or rehearse controller patterns). They put thought into picking their plots to avoid competition or at least have a backup option that is also fully rehearsed. They decide where they logout to avoid congestion. They stay up all night to make sure they don't get caught up in patch issues and are ready to go on launch. They refresh their launcher non-stop to get in. It's PvP, if you don't go that far you'll lose to those that do. And if you go that far you can still miss out to people who are faster. Simple as that.
    Yes you can do all that and then rng error out or get dced and put into a queue but if you're prepared you'll still get access to a plot despite that, even if it isn't what you were originally going for and you're stuck on a small in the goblet. As long as you get your first entry house upgrading is easier on you, from there it's just a waiting game (time).
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    Quote Originally Posted by EaMett View Post
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    Fair PVP is one player vs one player, not several versus one. Never mind. We will never agree anyway. Now, it's just trying to have the last words. It's kind of useless talk. You wil no change my opinion, neither I will change yours. Let's stop that.
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